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The Lack Of Large Professional SP Agencies In Vancouver

frisky business

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Has anybody else noticed that, and wondered why, SPs in Toronto and Montreal are usually organized into large professionally run agencies, while SPs in Vancouver really aren't at all?

If you haven't noticed this, just spend a few minutes going through and comparing the advertising sections of PERB, TERB, and MERB. Sure, some Vancouver indies sometimes band together to share a location etc., but this business model is nothing like what dominates in Toronto and Montreal.

In both of those cities there must be 10 maybe 20 agencies with managers, full time phone staff, a large selection of SPs, beautiful websites, and which pay attention to their long term reputations. I actually prefer the agency model. I think it gives more safety to the girls and a more reliable service to the guys.

Does anyone know why this business structure has not come to Vancover?
 

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My opinion comes down to a simple answer. The reputable advertised Ladies here are business savvy in their own right. What can an agency do for us that we cannot do for ourselves?
 

uncleg

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Does anyone know why this business structure has not come to Vancover?

Probably because Toronto and Montreal never had a Rico in the business...

My opinion comes down to a simple answer. The reputable advertised Ladies here are business savvy in their own right. What can an agency do for us that we cannot do for ourselves?

...and there's this......
 

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there is a huge asian pooner base here as well, doubtful the agencies could handle the language issue that well
 

uncleg

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Rico...???
Used to own most of the agencies in Vancouver, Victoria, Kelowna..etc......no, not affiliated with HA....in fact they weren't even in Vancouver at the time.

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He wasn't Racketeer Influenced...he was the Racketeer...

RICO is American so far as I know. Basically if you have any association with organized crime it lets the Feds come in and take everything.
Yup, it sure is....but we are talking about Canada here, so you be off subject...
 

felixthecat

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Does anyone know why this business structure has not come to Vancover?
That's a multimillion dollar question.

My opinion comes down to a simple answer. The reputable advertised Ladies here are business savvy in their own right. What can an agency do for us that we cannot do for ourselves?
Nobody's born business savvy. Huge percentage of those who enter the industry don't have a clue. It would benefit them to work in an agency for a year or whatever. Lots of grief is caused to both sides of the trade because of lack of knowledge.

Security, drivers, training, ads, client screening and shared blacklist, shared incalls (big one with so many people complaining about rents), client communication if desired, though some 'agencies' leave it to the girls. Independents could manage most of that, but time=money and delegating routine parts might lead to a higher effective $/hour.

I have no clue myself why Vancouver is different. Turf wars? Municipality / condo regulations? Ethnic mix / culture? (with big Chinese and EI population, relatively few of them can be seen as indy SPs or in known reputable agencies).
 

felixthecat

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A happy woman makes for happy customers.
Yes, and ideally the market will weed out the bad agencies then. If a customer sees the girls at this place are not into it, why would he come back? A known well-reviewed agency, on the other hand, makes a good safe choice, more reliable than an unknown indy (or so she says) on LL. These factors work, the only problem many guys are not informed or don't care.

Also on SP side, if there were several established well-reviewed agencies, perhaps girls would rather work there, rather than at some shady place or all by themselves when they don't know the trade yet.
 

frisky business

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Sadly man, not every customer gives a shit about the woman's health and well being. My own opinion is that the woman should be the person who makes the choice who is her client. No one else. And you are right, there is no handbook to teach women the tricks of this trade (or maybe there is?). There should be.
Yes. This is exactly why I think the "agency" way of doing business is better.

Even Victoria, Prince George, Kelowna, Nanaimo have agencies that dominate. A woman entering the business gets to choose. She can go indie or go with a company. There are pros and cons to both.

Vancouver is weird. An outlier. An anomaly. We have a few "botique" agencies but almost all working girls are indies.
 

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Yes, and ideally the market will weed out the bad agencies then. If a customer sees the girls at this place are not into it, why would he come back? A known well-reviewed agency, on the other hand, makes a good safe choice, more reliable than an unknown indy (or so she says) on LL. These factors work, the only problem many guys are not informed or don't care.

Also on SP side, if there were several established well-reviewed agencies, perhaps girls would rather work there, rather than at some shady place or all by themselves when they don't know the trade yet.
So do you consider agencies like WCA and the FD boutique agencies? And if so, what makes them so while agencies in other cities you do not consider boutique agencies?

JD
 

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So do you consider agencies like WCA and the FD boutique agencies? And if so, what makes them so while agencies in other cities you do not consider boutique agencies?

JD
I know you're asking felix but I'll just say that in my opinion, yes, I would consider WCA a "boutique" agency. Although, I would say that Carman Fox is an agency in the truest sense.
 

felixthecat

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I know you're asking felix but I'll just say that in my opinion, yes, I would consider WCA a "boutique" agency. Although, I would say that Carman Fox is an agency in the truest sense.
Actually, I think he's asking 'frisky business' who mentioned boutique agencies. Probably quoted me by mistake. I didn't say anything of boutique agencies.
 

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Actually, I think he's asking 'frisky business' who mentioned boutique agencies. Probably quoted me by mistake. I didn't say anything of boutique agencies.
Ah, yes. I see that now. Sorry. My mistake.
 

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Rico Suchy used to own the Adam and Eve on Grandview Hwy, he also owned a "dormitory" for his call girls in Whistler. The guy that bought the businesses was shot to death at 10th and Cambie. Rico faded stage right when he sold the businesses. He had attracted a large amount of attention from LE and was charged with feeding bears in Whistler. The gangs were also becoming more aggressive. He was an avid Horse Racing fan, one of the ladies on this board probably knew him when she was working at the track. He used to bring his girls to the track and didn't care what people thought of the business he and his wife owned and ran. He was suffering from Dementia and his wife may have found that was better to spend their money in peace.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?126608-Adam-and-Eve-owner-Rico-Suchy-still-missing
 
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