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    legal name and deposit...

    Just saw an add of a touring girl where she requires full legal name a deposit in order to book her. Of course her rates are courtesan level and the pics/stats are hot enough. And she is paid advertiser on here with red name and everything.
    Is this for real? And people actually book?
    ....With the purchase of sex being illegal I find this highly unlikely. Sounds like a scam. But I am not a veteran pooner so I don't know.

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    Cancellations and no shows are a huge problem for touring ladies.
    Many local ladies and their pimps don't like outside competition and sabotage the touring ladies.

    Deposit is totally understandable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westwoody View Post
    Cancellations and no shows are a huge problem for touring ladies.
    Many local ladies and their pimps don't like outside competition and sabotage the touring ladies.

    Deposit is totally understandable.
    What he said. Touring ladies often get their schedules fucked around with by local SP's and their handlers.

    As for deposits. Assuming the woman is well reviewed on Perb & Terb AND advertises on these sites . She has a website & has some history in the industry. And assume her writing on these forums is coherent and intelligent (as well as social media). I can't see putting down $50 as a problem. It's a little like trusting Trip Advisor on your hotel, is it not? I mean is she really going to rip you off for $50.00 and then face your public wrath to destroy her reputation and perhaps face you online bullying her?

    The full legal name I'm a little mixed on. I'd have to think about it.
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    I have seen this in an ad, and simply moved on to the next. It is hard to believe that the losses this policy prevents out weights the loss of potential clients that are scared off by this policy. Obviously, it must be worthwhile, otherwise policy wouldn't last.

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    I have never heard of the "touring ladies vs local SP's" thing.
    That sounds horrible but understandable :/
    I want to contemplate on this and figure out a good system to minimize that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by giver_snoot View Post
    I have seen this in an ad, and simply moved on to the next. It is hard to believe that the losses this policy prevents out weights the loss of potential clients that are scared off by this policy. Obviously, it must be worthwhile, otherwise policy wouldn't last.
    So a woman travels to Calgary for a week

    Hotel cost: $1400.00
    Airfare: $500.00
    Food: $350.00

    Assuming a rate of $300.00/hr, she needs to work 7.5 hours just to cover those basic costs. And I'm being conservative on the costs. So the WOT's and competing escorts can fuck up her schedule & setup fake bookings. They may also find her hotel, report her & she could be kicked out of the hotel. You're seeing that happening with AirBNB now. And in cities like Calgary or Edmonton where you technically require a license it's another way to fuck up their trip.

    An upscale, well reviewed escort has no desire to share your personal information with anyone. That's how she makes a living and this is her job. Why would she destroy her income producing ability? She's very aware that information is shared on these forums, etc. This isn't the FBI man. You're name is Joe Blow, you want a blow job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyBoi View Post
    I have never heard of the "touring ladies vs local SP's" thing.
    That sounds horrible but understandable :/
    I want to contemplate on this and figure out a good system to minimize that...
    Well known local ladies would never dream of doing those things, it tends to be more of a handler or micro agency behaviour.

    Also don't forget the costs associated with visiting ladies -- accommodation, flights, food (every meal, no real amenities to cook), extra advertising for that location, laundry, etc. It already starts out quite pricey and it's a huge hit when you have no shows (whether booked by a competitor or not).

    In fact I've noticed a trend in people just not confirming as well which is essentially the same thing. It's incredibly anxiety inducing. I suppose many people forget this is our livelihood -- how would one feel to be told constantly not to come into work but you're also not getting any compensation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrman848 View Post
    Is this for real? And people actually book?
    It's probably real. Some people book.
    The full legal name thing is common in the US, where selling sex is illegal too. I don't think sharing your real name makes sense in Canada. The girls have other screening options - references, forum handles, shared blacklists.

    Deposits are understandable. Those who fake book won't put even $10 down, let alone $50. Asking for a 50% and more as a deposit is an overkill.
    Keep in mind that most forms of money transfers are not fully anonymous, your name is still somewhere in the paper trail.

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    My worry is that I over-confirm lol. I tend to send an email the morning of or the day before just to make sure the appointment is still there and, because I am just visiting sometimes, I don't have a local number. (For this reason, most girls that have seen me deserves a shout out. Sydney, Émilie, Outlook group and the WCA were all super kind and understanding).

    Most ladies are cautious but I think if you show a shred of decency they'd give you a chance.

    I have struck out against "high level" courtesans because when I emailed them to introduce myself, I didn't also "apply for the full screening" so she thought I was being disrespectful/not interested enough to research her website fully. =/

    I just cut my losses and moved on.

    I do this for fun, and I don't wish to fully engage my business intelligence background for a "hobby".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peyton Alexander View Post
    Well known local ladies would never dream of doing those things, it tends to be more of a handler or micro agency behaviour.
    I live in Winnipeg.
    Frankly I was shocked when a (now retired) well known local lady said that since touring ladies were on her turf it was justified.
    Worse, another two ladies I occasionally saw agreed with her. And admitted doing it.
    That is why I gave up on the locals.
    And because of these ignorant bitches there are several really great touring ladies who now skip over Winnipeg completely.

    There is also a wacko pooner/stalker who has a grudge against a few touring ladies.
    He likes to do this, as well as reporting them to their hotel.

    So guys, you really need to understand this is a very serious issue. It is not a joke or a prank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyBoi View Post
    I have struck out against "high level" courtesans because when I emailed them to introduce myself, I didn't also "apply for the full screening" so she thought I was being disrespectful/not interested enough to research her website fully. =/

    I just cut my losses and moved on.
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    I think that's a fair statement. This forum is full of professional pooners who should know what to check/where to check. But for a whole bunch of the casual guys who do this a couple times a year they may simply not realize to check the website. And given the prevalence of older guys in this industry they simply may not be that good at computers. Yeah, there are guys who ignore the shit solely in the hopes of chatting up the SP but I think a good portion just might not realize. People ask me for technical assistance *all* the time. My solution is usually to Google it. I don't turn to them and say "google it"

    Being to harsh or constricting might well turn off what is a very good client. Sometimes questions really are just innocent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyBoi View Post
    My worry is that I over-confirm lol. I tend to send an email the morning of or the day before just to make sure the appointment is still there and, because I am just visiting sometimes, I don't have a local number. (For this reason, most girls that have seen me deserves a shout out. Sydney, Émilie, Outlook group and the WCA were all super kind and understanding).

    Most ladies are cautious but I think if you show a shred of decency they'd give you a chance.

    I have struck out against "high level" courtesans because when I emailed them to introduce myself, I didn't also "apply for the full screening" so she thought I was being disrespectful/not interested enough to research her website fully. =/

    I just cut my losses and moved on.

    I do this for fun, and I don't wish to fully engage my business intelligence background for a "hobby".
    There's nothing wrong with covering bases and over confirming (as long as it's not excessive i.e daily or multiple times daily).

    I do believe every lady has the right to require whatever she deems necessary for bookings. Sometimes the ones who don't respond without all the info right away are just dealing with a large amount of requests. It's nothing personal, and you reacted appropriately.

    What I meant by "not confirming" was people booking times as a place holder without the knowledge if they cannprobably make it or not. To me that's disrespectful to hold up a block of time that someone else may have full intention of showing up.

    Quote Originally Posted by westwoody View Post
    I live in Winnipeg.
    Frankly I was shocked when a (now retired) well known local lady said that since touring ladies were on her turf it was justified.
    Worse, another two ladies I occasionally saw agreed with her. And admitted doing it.
    That is why I gave up on the locals.
    And because of these ignorant bitches there are several really great touring ladies who now skip over Winnipeg completely.

    There is also a wacko pooner/stalker who has a grudge against a few touring ladies.
    He likes to do this, as well as reporting them to their hotel.

    So guys, you really need to understand this is a very serious issue. It is not a joke or a prank.
    Well I can't speak for anyone but myself or ladies that I personally know. None of us would dream of compromising someone's livelihood. It makes me sad that there are some who would.

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    Most ladies would never give out their legal name. Why would it be any different with men?

    It's not about the deposit; it's the lack of discretion that inevitably goes with sending a deposit that is problematic.

    The chance of me giving my legal name to a lady when booking is as slim as the lady giving me her legal name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thodisipagal View Post
    Most ladies would never give out their legal name. Why would it be any different with men?

    It's not about the deposit; it's the lack of discretion that inevitably goes with sending a deposit that is problematic.

    The chance of me giving my legal name to a lady when booking is as slim as the lady giving me her legal name.
    As was addressed in a different thread, it is possible to change the name and email information on etransfer transactions and then change it back. I have no issue with people using a pseudonym provided their other screening information checks out.

    I imagine those who prefer paying with credit aren't as concerned. For perspective's sake, it's not uncommon for high end companions in the US to check ID upon arrival.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peyton Alexander View Post
    As was addressed in a different thread, it is possible to change the name and email information on etransfer transactions and then change it back.
    It's not as simple. For the initial email notification, it may appear you are anonymous, but it does not end there.

    The banks have the responsibility to fight money laundering and terrorist financing, there's lots of paper trail. When etransfer transactions are settled, the banks will exchange the legal names of the recipient and the sender and will keep them on the record on both sides.

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