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Saskatoon scams !!!!!

watchman_sk

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The number of scams going on in Saskatoon right now has become ridiculous. I wanted to create this thread so that everyone can become aware of which girls are deliberately ripping guys off. The recent episode in Red Deer has highlighted just how dangerous some of these scams can be. There are a few girls who have figured out they can pull this shit off and nothing is going to happen to them... and they are getting braver and more numerous. I will do a post with all of the scams I have encountered with details of the girls involved. There was a post in another thread by "groundhog" that hit the nail on the head. The new licensing bylaw has kept away a lot of the good touring girls, so the scammers are popping up to fill the void.
If Vice is reading this... and I know they are... the situation with these scams is getting dangerous and is going to end up in some kind of violence sooner or later. You have the bylaw authority to go after these girls...please hit them...soon! It's not too hard to figure out who they are.
Fellow pooners...if a local girl isn't licensed...she is likely a scam. There are enough well-known and reputable local girls who provide excellent companionship and service who have made the effort to get a license...they deserve our support! There are also a few highly reputable touring girls who still come here to visit regular clients ... they deserve our support as well...even though some have yet to get a license. I personally know of three excellent touring girls who I am trying to convince to get licensed. I think the Saskatoon market will evolve to the point where only girls with licenses will get any business as a result of the risk of scams
Let's work together and get rid of the scammers!!!!
 

watchman_sk

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Since "politeguy" was asking about Jade (5835) 833 Ave.B. north... she is a total wackjob and a total scammer. Police are familiar with her, but she doesn't seem to care because she knows that the kinds of scams she runs are a low priority investigation.
 

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Well Watchman, you pretty much got it. Since the bylaw, way less travelling ladies. Regina, Pa, nb Yorkton. Not here. Even reviews here are much less frequent, everyone knows Mr Vice is reading them. Then they gotcha, me too now.

The thing that got me, again, is Rebecca who seems to post with impunity, constantly. Took me and many others, its been here. The guy who comes to get her is big. Someone even posted a bp thing, address and everything. Yet she's posting, yesterday, today. Often. And her buddy, same deal. She got me too. Fool that I am.

How is it possible that she continues to get away with this??

Thanks for starting this.

We'll see where it goes I guess
 
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watchman_sk

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"goodstart".... thanks for posting...don't feel too bad about Rebecca...she's tagged lots of guys with the same scam. I agree though...she keeps at it, and she's been at it for at least a year. The big question is why isn't Vice going after these girls for licenses? On BP right now....the first two ads by local girls are both scammers... one of whom is Rebecca. There are at least 4 local, unlicensed, girls advertising on BP tonight, and all 4 are scammers. Actually...calling them scammers is too polite... they are robbers. They advertise everyday and they are unlicensed... What gives? where is vice on this one? Do we have to wait until some client is violently assaulted before anything is done?
We are forcing the good girls, who provide a valuable and professional service to fork out money and give up anonymity to comply with the bylaw, yet we turn a blind eye to the girls who not only flaunt the licensing requirement, but are actually committing crimes and putting clients at risk of physical harm.
 

twelvetwentytwoam

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thanks watchman for starting this thread. we all really need to help each other out to keep the hobby in this town safe. unfortunately there's really nothing LE can do unless something violent happens since any monies and services exchanged is between two consenting adults. there's literally nothing LE can charge her with other than operating without a license since services that is promised is so ambiguous in legal terms even with legit SPs. don't count on LE to keep us safe from scams and thieves like Rebecca. half the pooners out there aren't even ERB members so I'd imagine they are keeping these scammers alive with victims since anyone with a sane mind on here would not even think about giving these thieves a call. please post especially if you're a victim of scams so others can be spared the trouble. in return others will do the same for you.
 

watchman_sk

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"twelvetwentytwoam"... I agree.... the point though, is that LE does have a tool to use in the licensing bylaw and it should be used in these cases.
"waytomuch".... the basic scam is that once you hand over the money, some guy busts in and tells you to leave. there are variations on that, but they all involve handing the money over and the girl disappearing. Over the past few months there have been different posts on here by guys who have been ripped off and in some cases the guy has already had his clothes off which would be particularly uncomfortable when someone barges in.
 

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Face the facts guys, we are a very minor voice, LE does not care if they impress us with midnight raids on scammers. They and a lot of society still view view it as an immoral and ileagal activity, so why would they care. Even think of just people you know and respect, I would bet that there are quite a few that believe that way. Where as we just see it as fun and if both parties are willing no one is getting hurt. This bylaw was and is nothing more than a tool to try to control the online portion of the service provider industry. Is it a way to totally shut down the practice, no it is not, they have seen the changes coming federally and have adapted to try to maintain some assemblance of control. Any girl can come and get a licence, unless she has a nasty criminal record, I assume. You and I are just frustrated with the licence because many of the quatily touring girls want their anonymity and don't want to be on a police data base, and quite frankly I don't blame them for that one bit. Like I have said before I bet if you brought a complaint to the police they would investigate it, it is their job. Also I really don't know how the girls pulling these scams have not been caught with licence issues by the so called random police checks. It almost seems that's they get the touring girls from their adds off these boards and go find them if they don't comply with their stupid bylaw. Like you guys, I seem to see more and more scams advertised, but I wonder if they were always there in number but we notice it more since there are far less girls in town at any given time. I certainly do not have an answer other than checking the boards for the girls before you go see them, but then sometimes they are not to be found and someone has to cross their fingers and take the plunge. I had wanted to play around this weekend, but after narrowing it to a few girls, I just decided to skip it do to the hassle involved sometimes. So the best we can do if just share knowledge of the good and bad. The industry has evolved far above people's perception of the drug addicted std ridden girl on the corner and the sleezy john, it is just regular people choosing to have safe fun, and hopefully it is viewed as such one day. However, since we do not even have licenced strip clubs yet this is going to be a really long wait.
 

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Hello all, Cst. Harris here,

I just wanted to touch base with all of the posters and lurkers on here regarding the concerns some of you may have regarding scams which are being perpetrated by SP on the customers.

1. We are aware that girls are doing these incidents, however, one obstacle stands in our way of dealing with them. We need a complainant (or victim). We need a customer to contact us, come in, leave a written or video taped statement, maybe even look through a photo line-up, outlining exactly what happened - the who, what, when, where and how if you will. This is how we are able to deal with these SPs who are responsible for these incidents. We do have authourity to "go after these girls" as one posted stated under the bylaw, but not if we don't have someone to tell us it happened to them.

2. Contrary to popular belief, we are not able to simply knock on someone's door and hand them a ticket under the bylaw. We need evidence which proves they are providing an adult service as defined by the bylaw. The reason being, and I don't want to give any defence tips, there are plenty of ways to create reasonable doubt unless your hand is caught in the cookie jar if you'll pardon the analogy.

3. Also - and I'm starting to sound like a broken record here - We are NOT here to judge your hobby. We don't want to see any one taken advantage of or hurt. Our goal, and again, I've said this before, is to help legitimize this industry as an actual business. People have a right to earn a living how they see fit as long as no one is being hurt or exploited. We are trying to help move this business out of the shadows and I'm sure if you asked any of the licensed performers, they'd tell you getting licensed is the best thing they could have done. It helps protect them as well as their clients. This goes for travelling girls as well.

4. There is too much paranoia and too many conspiracy theories about what happens if girls get licensed. There is no sinister plot by the SPS to collect these names for some nefarious purpose. What you see is what you get. Furthermore, we definitely not concerned with the clients. What you do is your business. This notion of Big Brother watching and collecting information is completely false. Ask SPs what their experience was in dealing with VICE... I'm confident you'll hear ZERO complaints.

To reiterate.... we are here to help, we are here to make sure everyone is safe and happy and in terms of investigations, we are more than willing to aid in any way we can. We are just a phone call or email away. That said, we can't get out of the blocks if no one will come forward.
 

watchman_sk

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Cst Harris.... thank you for your post. I will be in touch with you and I would encourage others to do the same. My perspective on this is that I'm not all that concerned about the money, but I know that sooner or later one of these incidents will turn violent... Either a client will get hurt, or, more likely, a girl will get hurt. Either situation will do none of us any good. So gents, if you have a story to tell, step up to the plate.
 

shellyandu

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Please speak up gents as it will put a stop to this nonsense! Remember, as long as you diidnt find her on a street corner, they wont say anything .

I have worked in citys thst required a lic and vice was alwsys there for both partys. They just want to keep everything safe, for all concerend!
I'm worried about the scams escalating and someone getting hurt, its bound to happen as their Needs grow.

So be safe and think of it as another means to play with the reputible ladys and have fun not worries!
 

goodstart

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Cst Harris, Watchman and all. Someone once said "There's the rub, eh". Am I going to be the one to make a videoed statement? Probably not. Am I complaining? sure. Am I pissed off? sure.

And there it sits. I hope this helps Shelly. Nonsense was a good choice of words.
 

twelvetwentytwoam

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I agree with goodstart. I'm fine with leavin an anon tip about a scam and wat not but a recorded statement, photo lineup, etc... I'll pass on that. I'm glad the vice unit at least knows about these scams though. and i know you guys dont have an easy job by all means but i just hope vice can do something about these thieves eventually.
 

Saskatoon VICE Unit

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Goodstart and twelvetwentytwo : And that's exactly why these "thieves" continue to thrive... because everyone wants something done about it, but no one is willing to stand up and be the first to say that this isn't okay. They just assume someone else will do it first. But I know that Rebecca has been doing this since October/November and no one has come forward yet. It doesn't have to be a videotaped statement, I'm just throwing out the possibilities. Furthermore, a photo lineup consists of you looking at a series of pictures to attempt to identify the girl who robbed you. Once again, paranoia is getting the better of too many folks. Anonymous tips are great and all, but if it's a specific person or incident, they don't really help in this regard.
 

twelvetwentytwoam

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cst harris for the record I've never been a victim of these scams (very glad). but let's just say one day it does happen. could I contact you or someone from vice personally to report it discreetly? because I cant really see myself (or anyone on this board for that matter) walking up to a police station to report being ripped off by a call girl. discretion and anonymity is priority in this hobby. going to a police station about an escort scam is probably the last thing any of us would consider discreet.
 

Saskatoon VICE Unit

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You can always contact Vice, and/or me personally. However, while information is power, nothing can really be done to the girls without some sort of victim cooperation.
 

watchman_sk

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Cst Harris.... Rebecca's little game goes back to at least June of last year when she was operating out of a house on Ave. L. I hate to say this, but one of the things that concerns me about identifying her in a photo line-up is embarrassment. Rebecca isn't all that attractive...LOL The only excuse I have is that her face wasn't visible in her ads, and in my defense, I tend to be too polite and don't want to offend the girls. I'm also too much of a sucker... I feel sorry for some of them because some of them have to deal with some real crap in their lives, and I try to be sympathetic to them and treat them with some respect. Rebecca, though, is the author of her own misfortune...serious gambling habit and serious drug issues.
 

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In your face
I am going to stick this thread and would encourage anyone with information to put up links to the offending ladies, we might be able to save others some problems.
 

watchman_sk

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mylamynxx.... the obvious staring point is 4840... that one is Rebecca and she runs ads solo and for duos. 3927 is also one to avoid. As is 1941
 
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