Discussion - Lost another Regular to BBFS... WTF!

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t1163

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Hi guys,

A little note to start... don't bother PM'ing me trying to find out whom offered me BBFS because I will tell you to F___O__! I have a simple question, and, I am curious of a your (a regular pooner's) opinion?

Background details:

I poon once or twice a month and have been doing so since 2005. I try new SP's once in awhile but if I am treated special (and the price is right) I will repeat. Once I have repeated 3 or 4 times I seem to get recognized & my mileage starts to increase. Last month was the fourth time this has happed to me. All 4 times I was a "regular" over a period of time (longer than 6 months) but not more than 6 times repeating. Each time this has happed the situation seems to be similar; we start with LFK/DFK'ing in a sensual way (more romantic than sexual); we are entwined on the bed hugging and kissing and she slides me inside her BB! I am caught off guard and my adrenalin spikes! I don't know if it is fear or excitement but it gives me an explosive orgasm in about 2 strokes (in 10 seconds!). I don't even have time to decide if I am terrified or flattered? Each time this has happeded I have said nothing. I did not comment or complain. I was inside her Bareback for less that 10 seconds (unloading completely in that short time). I shower, get dressed and leave as normal. All 4 times I have stopped seeing her after this happens. My question is - has this happened to other pooners?

My Situation:

I am old. I am not in good shape. I am not (NOT) attractive, but, I am always polite, freshly showed & shaved. I always (ALWAYS) tip & I never (NEVER) question or negotiate prices. I am soft spoken, I treat SP's respectfully. I try to make sure that the SP I have chosen feels comfortable and safe in my presence. I try to treat each encounter like a date & I do my best (or as best I can) to make sure both of us "click". If I am not happy with an SP I won't repeat or recommend (see my previous posts on this board). I am motivated to write this because I keep losing my regular SP! Although I was turned on & the orgasm was shockingly great - the large head prevails & I stay away in the future. I got tested and all is well. I dream about these women once in awhile but have never repeated after this happens.

My Questions:

An SP (after multiple encounters covered) all of a sudden offers BBFS - why?
Is there an appropriate amount of "repeats" to justify losing the condom?
Has this happened to other pooners - and - if so, how did you handle it?
What do you guys think an SP's motivation (hidden agenda) would be to "surprise" me like this?
Or, should I accept it as a compliment and shut the hell up?
 

yaletownguy

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Not sure this is the appropriate category for this thread, but I'll chime in.

If you've followed or read any of my posts, you know, I generally only see a girl once... and I've seen 2 girls more than one time... and 1 of those girls I see 2x a week (my regular girl is very safe, and it gives me a lot of comfort knowing this). I had one encounter early on in my journey with a girl who advertises on this board, and is a well known SP... When I got to her incall, she explained her restrictions and rates... after giving me her general menu she said to me... "I can tell you don't do this often, and you're a clean, normal-looking guy.... if you're interested in Full Service Uncovered, I can do that for you for an additional $200". I went a head with the session, sans the BBFS, and I actually insisted on a CBJ even though the BBJ was offered... just really made me think. I'm beginning to think that even a BBBJ is a bit of a gamble for either party, and I wouldn't do the BBBJ unless it was with a very regular girl.

Just my two cents.

YTG
 

Elmore

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Not sure this is the appropriate category for this thread, but I'll chime in.

If you've followed or read any of my posts, you know, I generally only see a girl once... and I've seen 2 girls more than one time... and 1 of those girls I see 2x a week (my regular girl is very safe, and it gives me a lot of comfort knowing this). I had one encounter early on in my journey with a girl who advertises on this board, and is a well known SP... When I got to her incall, she explained her restrictions and rates... after giving me her general menu she said to me... "I can tell you don't do this often, and you're a clean, normal-looking guy.... if you're interested in Full Service Uncovered, I can do that for you for an additional $200". I went a head with the session, sans the BBFS, and I actually insisted on a CBJ even though the BBJ was offered... just really made me think. I'm beginning to think that even a BBBJ is a bit of a gamble for either party, and I wouldn't do the BBBJ unless it was with a very regular girl.

Just my two cents.

YTG
Wow dude...I would pretty much avoid everyone you saw (that advertise here) just from this one post. Maybe I'm naive but i figured this sort of thing was reserved for aging CL Asians who were desperate to retain business.
 

ihadapheo

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Wow dude...I would pretty much avoid everyone you saw (that advertise here) just from this one post. Maybe I'm naive but i figured this sort of thing was reserved for aging CL Asians who were desperate to retain business.
pretty ignorant. thats like assuming millionaires dont eat at mcdonlds from time to time just cuz they can afford filet and lobster every meal.
 

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... we are entwined on the bed hugging and kissing and she slides me inside her BB!
a well known SP... When I got to her incall, she explained her restrictions and rates... after giving me her general menu she said to me... "I can tell you don't do this often, and you're a clean, normal-looking guy.... if you're interested in Full Service Uncovered, I can do that for you for an additional $200".
See what I've been saying?? I've been saying this BBFS stuff happens and is definitely pretty common, and its not just the girls in micros but the independent girls. Now I said this before and that "Miss Bijou" gets all personally offended (in another thread). First of all, I never said it was her. Secondly, she doesn't have to take it personally that all womanhood was somehow insulted by what I said. Third, she should face reality and that's all that I've been doing - just stating the facts.

I wish people would stop pretending and just be honest about it. We of all people shouldn't be judging each other, that should be the least of our concerns especially with something as dangerous as the spread of deadly or permanent diseases.
 

newatit

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Yes and Miss Bijou was offended about some remarks on my side too and here you go more evidence.
 

headude

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This was very common pre HIV, surprisingly it still happens these days usually when you are a regular. I occasionally get this offered from SW's I know well! I always give them shit for offering this, well I know you your safe they say, that's not the point! You are supposed to be a professional and its your duty to make sure you play safe, I never pick them up again and they get deleted off the posse list! Not going back is the only way to get the message across, unfortunately there are other pooners who love this and become dedicated regulars to their imaginary beloveds! They could wind up paying a much higher price than the extra bucks they are forking out now and to the gals who offer this shame on you!
Keep it up, Bro. It's been many, many years since I've seen a SW but safety on the street scene makes the whole industry safer.

FWIW, I don't poon much and lately have only been seeing my ATF. She has never offered this service and I doubt if she ever would. She upholds safe practices (she even washes her hands before changing the sheets at her incall). It's the main reason I keep going back (well that AND the great service).

Thanks to the OP and all others who discourage such risky behaviour.
 

Elmore

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pretty ignorant. thats like assuming millionaires dont eat at mcdonlds from time to time just cuz they can afford filet and lobster every meal.
Nominee for assinine post of the year and we're not even half way through.

I believe strongly that some wealthy pooners see all sorts of ladies from the upper high end escorts to women on East Hastings and that is more in line with your post.

But the reason for a high end escort to randomly offer FS to a pooner because he seems clean cut? That has nothing to do with your comment.
 

Cock Throppled

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The OP needs more than his dick and blood examined.

You willingly continue with BBFS and climax because you're either "excited or caught off guard." And this has happened 4 times!

Yeah right. The reaction most guys would (and should) have is to stop things the INSTANT bare junior heads toward the goal.

Right - SHE slides you in. You're the one in control of your penis, dick head. What happened happened because you wanted it. If it really worried you so much you'd make sure the jacket was on before you got so "entwined".

Coming inside her and then announcing you won't go back is like finishing a meal and saying you won't go back for more. YOU got what you wanted already.
 

mimi

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Keep it up, Bro. It's been many, many years since I've seen a SW but safety on the street scene makes the whole industry safer....
Yeah, I used to think I was a cut above the SWs, as a high end worker back in the day, but, fact is prostitution is the same whether on the street or in a 5 star hotel...disease knows no boundaries.

I've come to believe most street workers are more careful in their 'interactions'. The coziness of a regular situation in a familiar setting could lead to feelings of intimacy: love. That could lead to a desire for uncovered sex.

Condoms actually feel shitty for women too, ya know! One thing about only having relationships through the industry is never feeling that natural skin on skin again. I think when a woman finds a regular she 'bonds' with she will want to move it into a closer relationship and bbfs is the hook.

We are dealing with dynamite when we do business with Mother Nature.

Anyways, it is unprofessional for more reasons than disease. When a man climaxes inside a woman it changes her scent, sometimes for days, and that is unfair to her other clients. A professional woman must remain 'pure'....
 

vancity_cowboy

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Yeah, I used to think I was a cut above the SWs, as a high end worker back in the day, but, fact is prostitution is the same whether on the street or in a 5 star hotel...disease knows no boundaries.

I've come to believe most street workers are more careful in their 'interactions'. The coziness of a regular situation in a familiar setting could lead to feelings of intimacy: love. That could lead to a desire for uncovered sex.

Condoms actually feel shitty for women too, ya know! One thing about only having relationships through the industry is never feeling that natural skin on skin again. I think when a woman finds a regular she 'bonds' with she will want to move it into a closer relationship and bbfs is the hook.

We are dealing with dynamite when we do business with Mother Nature.

Anyways, it is unprofessional for more reasons than disease. When a man climaxes inside a woman it changes her scent, sometimes for days, and that is unfair to her other clients. A professional woman must remain 'pure'....
now there's your candidate for 'Post of the Year' :thumb:
 

lenny

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Anyways, it is unprofessional for more reasons than disease. When a man climaxes inside a woman it changes her scent, sometimes for days, and that is unfair to her other clients.
That would be another reason why i`d recommend those engaging in BBFS not "climax inside" female sex workers. The primary reasons would be "disease" prevention for the SP and pregnancy prevention for both of them.

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...-sex-article&p=1252316&viewfull=1#post1252316
 

Papa Chongo

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To be honest I think this topic is just about done, what are we to gain by constantly talking about it.

1.) You have to be crazy to think this doesn't happen, maybe not often, but it does
2.) It doesn't matter how much we talk about it, it will continue.
3.) Watch out for yourself, make sure your safe and enjoy the hobby!

We will all set the bar as to what risks are acceptable to us, but BBFS has to be the stupidest decision anyone can make, and the whole she slipped it in..um why is her pussy getting that close to your bare dick in the first place..just rubbing them together will pass some of the nasty stuff!
 

mimi

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now there's your candidate for 'Post of the Year' :thumb:
'fess up! You jes luv me!

Hey, I tell it like it is...there is a gritty side to life!

I think the OP did it 4 times with 4 different women, and it was "sudden like" .... unexpected. Not excusing!

I remember having a guy whip off the condom when we were doing doggy and it took about 3 strokes for me to really catch on...and jump up and punch him. (this is why 'doggy' was highly discouraged by sps in the nineties)

I remember having a condom break and it takes about 3 or 4 strokes to tell, too, one or both might say "man this feels really good!"...we figured it at the same time and both leaped backwards yelping...LOL

I don't even encourage bbfs when dating or in relationships...cause who knows?
 

lenny

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What do you guys think an SP's motivation (hidden agenda) would be to "surprise" me like this?
Perhaps she was caught up in the moment just as you were. Or she has monetary motivations in mind. Or she wants a baby. Or she's HIV positive & looking to pass it on.

Or, should I accept it as a compliment and shut the hell up?
You sound like a nice generous guy. Some ladies may feel an older guy like that is safer, especially if she gets the sense that you are a condom stickler. Since (i assume) your previous sessions were covered, that would be a reasonable probability, especially if you had never asked for or mentioned an interest in BBFS.

Rather than continuing to lose your regulars who initiate BBFS with you w/o talking about it first, another approach would be to talk with them to investigate how often they do this. If a guy got a good read from that, in true Sherlock Holmes style, he might consider BBFS under conditions of sharing recent STD negative tests with each other, not ejaculating inside her, & other possible safe sex practices.

Since you came within 10 seconds in each case it indicates a very low risk situation for you. I've had condoms come off inside ladies quite a few times w/o even being aware of it for maybe 30 minutes or more. Even after an additional 100 marathon sessions of BBFS with about 15 different Thai street SP's, i've only had one minor (clamydia) infection. For the most part this involved ladies whose HIV & or STD tests i had seen.

Re HIV tests, you are safest getting the usual antibody test together with either NAT or p24 antigen.

"In 2009 blood screened for HIV in Greater Accra, Ghana amounted to 33, 294 units of blood, of which 3. 68 percent was found to be HIV positive. 45 Ghana tests 100 percent of its blood donations, however this is done using only antibody tests. Therefore the window period remains a significant interval, which suggests some units may continue to pass through screening undetected.

"In October 2005, South Africa introduced NAT testing and as a result there were no cases of HIV transmission by blood transfusion reported to the haemovigilance programme, a transfusion surveillance system. 46 47

"The availability of nucleic acid tests (NAT) , which reduces the window period and makes testing much more accurate, helped to support the argument for a change in the ban against MSM donating. These tests have been found to almost eliminate the possibility that HIV infected blood will pass through the testing stage, even in countries with high prevalence. 33"

"If a person receives a blood transfusion with HIV-infected blood, there is a 95 percent risk they will become infected with the virus. 4 However the chances of becoming infected with HIV through a blood transfusion varies between countries depending on the level of safety precautions in place, and there is a notable difference between high and low-income countries. In the UK, the risk is now 1 in 5 million. 5"

http://www.avert.org/blood-safety-hiv.htm

One in 5 million. This gives some idea of the HIV risk in having one act of bareback sex with an individual (aged 17 to 65) who has just had this NAT test & donated blood. Certainly it would be riskier with a FT gogo girl or streetwalker in Bangkok, but the million dollar question is, by how much. Note also that recieving HIV in blood as a donor will almost surely infect you (95 percent of the time, as stated) , whereas one act of BB sex with an infected lady is very unlikely to cause you harm (maybe 1 in 2000 chance of getting HIV). Factor into that the miniscule chance a SP who recently tested negative for STIs (using NAT & antibody tests) is HIV positive and the conclusion is your odds of getting HIV from her are extremely low, such as when using a condom with a SP whose HIV status you have no clue about.
 
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