Craigslist Spam

timhorton

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Got some spam from responding to a CL ad today, and did some investigatin'-type stuff when I noticed four or five concurrent ads similar to the one I responded to. I'm sure some of the girls here know about him already - he's pretty candid about his service.

This dude in West Van calls himself Eddie Temple The Matrix Factor offering free craigslist posting service. He'll post from 250+ IP addresses in five minute intervals, flooding cl and starving legit posts.

A quick review indicated that most of the W4M posts in CL Casual Encounters today are from him.

I also remember him soliciting internet developers for spam-related programming services on some of the development industry forums a while back.

I'm going to hazard a guess since his identity is readily available on the net without poking too hard that he's not going to take issue with it being posted here. A whois on jennyfoster dot com, one of his current spam campaigns, shows who he is.

http://www.talkblogging.com/general-blogging-chat/60266-free-craigslist-posting-service.html
 

FortunateOne

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Well, now we know who to thank for the new CL accounts system in erotic services. :D
Why would anyone want to pay to have ads posted on a free site -- isn't the whole point that they don't want to pay for their ads?? Not shown here, but who doubts that he's going to offer a "flagging fee" so you can pay to get the competition's ads deleted. :rolleyes:
 

Miss*Bijou

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Craigslist Sucks!

Guys - there are numerous websites that offer a bunch of different spamming aids or softwares.


The site may be free to post on, but it's popularity -- clicks, visitors, traffic -- is worth big freaking bucks for people who make a living that way. CL is a godsend for someone looking for traffic. The word Affiliate ring a bell? Lots of people make Lots of money that way. They are the ones CL refers to as spammers. Only this obviously isn't a Vancouver problem, it's all over. The whole phone verification pain in the ass wasn't only applied to postings made in the erotic services section, in other (US) cities, it was subsequently also applied to other 'competitive' sections. Also, there are some sections in certain cities that are not free to post in btw. The idea behind offering a 'posting service' is that for these marketers, the volume of daily postings is more in the 100's and in numerous cities.. and that's where it gets a little more complicated than say, 1-2 ads in the erotic services section of the Vancouver page.


There are so many 'spammers' (marketers) who make a living (a lot of money) that every time CL comes up with a new way to stop them, someone figures a way around it and makes a killing off of it. I tried to find out if there was any way around the stupid new phone authentication requirements for accounts used for posting in the erotic services section and came across a bunch of sites. Well whoever figured out a way around it isn't saying how or saying where he's finding all the numbers, but instead now making a killing selling accounts at $5 + a pop! :eek: I guess now we know how some manage to post the same ads 10x a day. :rolleyes: ;)


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Yah.. sure you don't. :rolleyes:




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<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Lw_bFvnRQUM&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Lw_bFvnRQUM&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>




Basically, every time CL adds something to stop 'spammers', someone else benefits (and profits BIG TIME) from it because these 'spammers' are marketers who have a lot at stake and aren't about to go anywhere. (The only thing is that as CL catches on to some of the 'tricks', a lot of what these sites sell becomes obsolete rather quickly, making it necessary to constantly buy some new software or as they are doing now, phone verified accounts.) But while these websites must be making a mint, it penalizes everyone else who hasn't dropped a couple hundreds on some verified accounts because they probably don't know about it, as I don't think the average sp posting on CL (yes, there are exceptions) is necessarily super computer/internet savvy or necessarily has any interest in spending time looking for something like this. Well, I guess I just did it for you, didn't I? :cool:



The flagging mystery's uncovered, ladies.. ;) no, it wasn't someone sitting at a computer for hours flagging each posting multiple times, nor was it an evil gang of flaggers..... all it was was one person (or more) pressing a button or two and just letting the software do its magic. Only, once it became possible to BUY hundreds of accounts, I bet flagging didn't become all that important. Who needs to flag their competition when they now have they ability to post 10-20x ++ more than their competition!? Hmmm. Bastards!


Now if you're going to go this route - which I personally think is kinda pathetic - but if you are, don't pay some gumba many times what you need to, and do it yourself. Watch the chaos on CL now! lol The way I see it though, is that at least now there might be more than 1 group mass spamming, um, i mean posting and might level the playing field a little... or if we're lucky, kill it altogether. :D So go ahead kids! Greeds the word! :rolleyes:


And there you have it kids, if you look hard enough.. you can find anything on the World Wide Web.



For the record, before anyone asks -- I haven't bought any of the softwares or verified accounts, nor do I plan to. And that is because..... Yes, I think it's pretty pathetic but also..... Didn't you know, people??............. CRAIGSLIST SUCKS! Too bad everyone's hooked, huh?



CRAIGSLIST SUCKS!
 
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Quarter Mile'r

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From your point of view it may suck with all the spamming and flagging
of ads. Sounds like advertiser war declaration. :D

For me CL has been a godsend. Saved me thousands no doubt
so I can't see how it SUCKS!!

It's been grand indeed from a pooners point of view. :)
Btw, I've never replied to any of the "send me your email" type adds.
That's a suckers game for getting spammed for sure.




..................QM'r
 

Miss*Bijou

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From your point of view it may suck with all the spamming and flagging
of ads. Sounds like advertiser war declaration. :D

For me CL has been a godsend. Saved me thousands no doubt
so I can't see how it SUCKS!!

It's been grand indeed from a pooners point of view. :)
Btw, I've never replied to any of the "send me your email" type adds.
That's a suckers game for getting spammed for sure.




..................QM'r

lol no, no advertisers war.. not from me anyways. I say it sucks because no matter what, this will be a never-ending battle between CL and spammers/marketers, whatever you want to call them. I can certainly recognize that you don't see that side of it, but think about it, the girls you find on CL would be advertising elsewhere were it not for cl. The fact that now, more and more, in order to keep up with their competition.. if they want to have a chance in hell, they also will need to fork out the cash.. CL isn't all that free anymore, is it? How do you think the girls are going to cover these new added costs? You, maybe? ;)



And I will be completely honest here, this is not meant in any disrespectful way, but IMHO - while I know this will be the first thought of many reading this thread, your post is quite selfish and shows very little consideration for what it means for others who make their living from it. While I can understand that yes, as a consumer, none of it really affects you, please try to keep in mind, that it does affect others in a big way. And no matter what, this ultimately means that you and all the other consumers who rely on CL will also suffer down the line as a result. Sorry, I just found your comments rather selfish and inconsiderate.



I've never been a huge user of CL, have only used it sparsely and sporadically, and there are many reasons for that, but the fact remains that there are many who rely solely on CL for advertising and as their sole source of income. While you all may think we sit there and plot each other's demise, most of us have better things to do with our time. Honestly, I just feel that CL is in no way the great medium it once was, nor can we say that it is free or even fair at all for that matter. The playing field is not even and the bottom line is that those paying for it now and certainly more and more in the future, are the independent ladies who do not have the knowledge, the interest or resources to sit at a computer all day to make sure they can compete. Um, that leaves little time for fucking. :eek: So where does that leave them? What options do you think they have then?


I guess that means pimps are back in? Well not like they ever went anywhere.. they just have a more respectable way to call them these days.. Papasan, is it?

A spade's a spade.




I'm out.
 
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timhorton

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Well, now we know who to thank for the new CL accounts system in erotic services. :D
Why would anyone want to pay to have ads posted on a free site -- isn't the whole point that they don't want to pay for their ads?? Not shown here, but who doubts that he's going to offer a "flagging fee" so you can pay to get the competition's ads deleted. :rolleyes:
His actual market pitch is a subterfuge. He's flooding CL with spam that drives traffic to sites in order to generate ad or subscription revenue. I suspect very few individuals use his service to post legit CL ads.

And why pay to use him when CL is free? It's onerous and slow to post thousands of messages in different cities and categories by hand at five minute intervals.

Flagging is another matter. It would involve lots of IPs (which this guy has). Not too difficult, I suppose. You do hear claims in the escort section that ads without the word "asian" in them are flagged, but I haven't seen substantial evidence of this.
 

Aynia

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Ahh, Bijou you ROCK!!

Since returning Craigslist has been virtually useless and I have opted for other venues but it does suck because it get's traffic.

What I really don't get is how the men even find it helpful anymore....really it is all spam or three or four girls ( primarily asian) who are on the list...anyone else doesn't last more than 5 minutes (on a good morning)

Freebcads.com is an alternative as is Perb ( yes, contemplating returning) Escort me, and LE

I really have no problem paying for advertisement's but have always tried to keep at least one ad up on CL because of the traffic
 
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