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bilbo

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Hey guys, I am new to this whole escort thing. Can someone let me know what they mean when asking for References or Recommendations when trying to make a booking? What kind of information am I suppose to be giving. Thanks guys.
 

CalgaryJenn

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Hey guys, I am new to this whole escort thing. Can someone let me know what they mean when asking for References or Recommendations when trying to make a booking? What kind of information am I suppose to be giving. Thanks guys.
We wanna know you have seen another girl and your not an over eager cop or bylaw officer trying to make a bust. We also want to know somebody has seen you and your not violent or abusive. And finally, we want to know your not one who calls, books an appointment, and then no-shows. Its for our safety, don't take offense. Its not personal when a girl asks. ;)
Just like some guys TOFTT, some girls have to TOFTT every now and then.
 

Trav

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There are still lots of Sp`s who don`t ask for references. find somne you like & build up some references!!:eek: :eek:
 

bilbo

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Got it. Thanks guys. I am not offended by it at all, I just didn't know what to do. Thanks to all that answered.
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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The legit girls dont ask for references. Any girl asken for references is not worth YOUR time or YOUR MONEY.
What city are you in?
 

bilbo

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I'm from Saskatoon, and kinda new at this as I posted before. I was trying to book a session with Heidi who's coming to town next week. On her website it asked for references, now it doesn't say it's necessary but it's probably preferable, so I just want to know what it meant. That's all.
 

JoeBC2003

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The legit girls dont ask for references. Any girl asken for references is not worth YOUR time or YOUR MONEY.
What city are you in?

Well let's put it this way Bobo. What if you had a daughter and she decided to get into the business? Wouldn't you want her to have some sort of security measure like a name, reference or something to verify that the guy is not either going to be a no show, steal from her, rape her or worse. I know of women who had 3 of the 4 done to them and there are some that have had done worse to them in this industry. There are a lot of "legit" women using this form of screening in Canada and the US.

These wonderful ladies are putting their life on the line every time they open that door. Have some consideration and support for them. You are almost ridiculing these women for trying to protect themselves in some way.

Joe
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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First of all if I have a daughter I'm keepen her off the pole, never mind being a SP.

References is nothing but bull shit, whats a girl gona do? call the other girl and be like yea some guy named "bobo" said he saw you and I was wondering if hes cool so I can see him? Odds are that girl is not going to want to share her business so why would she give a positive reference?

I never EVER give out my real name or tell girls I am off PERB (though there is 1 or more guys who pretend to be me when they see SPs) unless I had to book them using PERB. None of the legit girls ask for references its just stupid.
 

CalgaryJenn

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First of all if I have a daughter I'm keepen her off the pole, never mind being a SP.

References is nothing but bull shit, whats a girl gona do? call the other girl and be like yea some guy named "bobo" said he saw you and I was wondering if hes cool so I can see him? Odds are that girl is not going to want to share her business so why would she give a positive reference?

I never EVER give out my real name or tell girls I am off PERB unless I had to book them using PERB. None of the legit girls ask for references its just stupid.
Ahhhh but the system works for the girls. If it doesn't work for you, there are other options OPTION 1, but I'm sure you can figure out a couple other options on your own ;) SP safety is important. Many legit SP's use the system.
 
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westcoast555

References?

I'm 42 and I saw my first hooker when I was 15 years old.

Never been asked or even heard of anybody being asked for references.

I've been with some nice independents and upscale agency girls too...

How does it work? A girl is going to phone up another pro and say 'Hi, I got a guy here says his name is 'John'. Is he a good date?

Sounds a little impractical to me!
 

CalgaryJenn

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I'm 42 and I saw my first hooker when I was 15 years old.

Never been asked or even heard of anybody being asked for references.

I've been with some nice independents and upscale agency girls too...

How does it work? A girl is going to phone up another pro and say 'Hi, I got a guy here says his name is 'John'. Is he a good date?

Sounds a little impractical to me!
Actually, most girls just want to know he is a pooner and not a cop. In Calgary, bylaw and LE are constantly trying to bust girls. I think Calgary uses the system more than other places. SP's don't go into detail. It's usually "Yes I have seen him before" or "No, never heard of him."
95% of the time, guys are the ones who email and say, "I have seen SP X, and would like to meet with you. She can verify I have seen her if you want to contact her"
Plus, if it helps keep THIS list from growing, it's worth the effort!
 
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Jen I think its because you sell art and are not a licensed escort or whatever the thing is called there. I think skirting the issue like that is why LE might be upset with you.
 

CalgaryJenn

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Jen I think its because you sell art and are not a licensed escort or whatever the thing is called there. I think skirting the issue like that is why LE might be upset with you.
Its not me, its every SP, local or touring that they are after.
I find it funny. People are constantly telling SP's to take whatever security measures nessesary to stay safe and protect ourselves. Yet when they do, there are always a few who complain about the measures being taken. Most of the time when references are asked for, its an online nickname via PM. Its not like the SP is asking for your drivers license number, S.I.N. number, real name, wifes name and number of children you have. She wants to know that the guy who just PM'd her is legit.
A safety measure is a safety measure. Even if somebody doesn't like that particular safety measure, its a safety measure. I don't like wearing seatbelts, but.... its a safety measure. Just like the ongoing debate of, DO SEATBELTS SAVE LIVES, people can and will debate this as well. This is a risky industry, and each and every girl needs to look out for herself, and hopefully other girls as well. Each girls safety is MOST important. (not how many times you get off in one hour) like so many think is most important. THAT, takes a back seat to an SP's safety. Once that safety net is established, THEN let YOUR concerns as to how many times you can get off be addressed.
 

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The legit girls dont ask for references. Any girl asken for references is not worth YOUR time or YOUR MONEY.
What city are you in?
Bobo - I'm worth the time and the money to see. When I travel I ask for referrences. When I open my home to submissive boys I ask for referrences.

It's safety - Its NOT getting a 5000 dollar fine in Edmonton. It's not getting busted in Calgary. In Lloydminster, while I dont ask for referrences I do NOT give my hotel room number to anyone until I see what they are driving.

For me, if you book a room first than I'm fine, and you are welcome to my home (submissives ONLY)

What gives anyone the right to come into a ladies home without giving her something about you. We display our faces on the net, we give our phone numbers, and some addresses. When did YOUR safety become more important than OURS ??
 

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pain in my a$$ too (and not in a good way!)

It's safety - Its NOT getting a 5000 dollar fine in Edmonton. It's not getting busted in Calgary.

What gives anyone the right to come into a ladies home without giving her something about you. We display our faces on the net, we give our phone numbers, and some addresses. When did YOUR safety become more important than OURS ??
Well put Annalise! I never used to ask for references UNTIL I got busted in a sting by Calgary LE, a wonderful evening that DID include a $2000 fine! So yes, now I DO ask for references, and YES also because I DO invite strangers into my home, I ask that he tell me abit about him and that I hear from another SP that he is a good guy, not (completely) crazy and isnt going to show up at my house everyday for the next two weeks!!!

While I agree that it is a major pain in the a$$, my only other option is to ask for a $2000 deposit, just in case, lol, I will hold the cash until the end of our date, and when you leave, without arresting/charging/giving me a fine, I will return the deposit, less my gift. (LMFAO! kidding...)

I will say that I am open to suggestions, if a gentleman can find another way to convince me and/or prove to me that he is NOT LE any in way shape or form, then I will consider meeting with him, but that tends to take alot more work on both of our parts! I dont know about Edmonton, but here in Calgary there are a few VERY well reviewed and well respected ladies that do NOT require references (however they also dont PROVIDE them!) But, for the gentleman who is frustrated by the whole process, there are options available to him.

;)
hannah
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BcMod

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References are the most common way to verify that a client is not LE, and is the closest thing to being fool proof that is out there.

If everyone cooperated the ladies would in effect have a nice closed circle that LE could not hope to penetrate (no pun intended); unfortunately there are those ladies out there that do not see the benefit of such a system, and keep to themelves.
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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The only girls asking for references are the ones breaking the law, you cant have guys at your privet residence as that becomes a bawdy house. Jen tries to get around the law by saying she sells art. The cops don't care about legit escorts who are licensed and using a hotel room or going to the guys place. Jackie also works out of her home.

PROSTITUTION is not illegal in Canada.

So why you're afraid of LE is because you are breaking a By-law, so just pay the city what it is due.

Any guy who sets out with the intent of hurting a SP wont be bothered by making up a fake reference. The best thing to do for a girls safety is to meet the guy before hand in the hotel lobby or some other public place.
 

CalgaryJenn

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The only girls asking for references are the ones breaking the law, you cant have guys at your privet residence as that becomes a bawdy house. Jen tries to get around the law by saying she sells art. The cops don't care about legit escorts who are licensed and using a hotel room. Jackie also works out of her home.
LOL Do you even poon, or do you just get your rocks off by arguing?
I suppose its free this way, except for your internet connection fees.
Now, who are you to preach about breaking the law if your part of "the problem" IF you poon? Lemme guess, you attend church every Sunday as well. Maybe you should be less of a preacher, and more of a regular person.
Here SP's have been worrying about LE, and right here on PERB, we have Bobo The Morals Police.
Bobo, you know the girls who tour to Edmonton and Calgary? They too need to be licensed in each city they work in. Do they? Nope. Go bitch, moan, and complain about their business practices for a few minutes. But remember, when their rates go through the roof because they are touring and need to get a license for each city, remember, it was Bobo The Morals Police who brought it up.
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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PROSTITUTION is not illegal in Canada.
 

CalgaryJenn

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PROSTITUTION is not illegal in Canada.
No shit Quick Draw McGraw..... But CPS doesn't care about that arguement. Girls have tried to use that in court, and they still get nailed. Incall, and Outcall.
Unless you have been through the system, through the court process and seen the shit that LE and Bylaw tries on the girls, I don't think your in any position to preach the system to the ladies.
Anybody can be an armchair lawyer, you just practice it more than others.
 
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