Anyone use SPs as a crutch...

Keithks

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because they can't get laid the normal way?

I haven't so much as touched a girl, and I'm at that age where it's considered weird to not have gone all the way. I remember being 8 years old, and wanting nothing more than to get some girl's panties off and have her play with my weiner... any girl would do. Well, it's now over a decade later, and that hasn't happened. It seems that if you don't look as good as Colin Farrell to a girl and can't keep her wildly entertained for countless hours, then you're basically screwed (not the good kind). So I've pretty much given up, thrown in the towel if you will. I figure the only way I'll ever get sex, much less sex on a regular basis, would be to use SPs. Has anyone else just quit dating or going on the prowl altogether? Do you feel like you're missing out on something, or are you content with just paying upfront and doing it with someone who's probably not even attracted to you?
 
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I remember being 8 years old, and wanting nothing more than to get some girl's panties off and have her play with my weiner... any girl would do.
If this is true, then you need to run, not walk, to your/a therapist for better understanding of what a babysitter or another trusted older female did to you well before age 8.

Forget sex for the time being until you understand yourself and your past.

Chances are that the social struggles of today are the product of the past in some way.

Make this investment in your distant future and make your immediate goal to keep from compounding the issues by acting out in young adulthood.

(I do not mean to suggest that seeing a working girl would be 'acting out', but it is probably the first step toward whateverelseyou'regoingtodo)
 

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Yes, I have thrown in the towel as well. I had a traumatic childhood so I can't get laid the normal way. I do feel like I'm missing out on many things that a normal intimate relationship may bring but I have no choice since I believe I've got nothing to offer... besides cash in an envelope that is. :(
 

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visioneast I almost wanna cry after reading your posts (almost)....we need to get you some confidence. actually you need to get some confidence. women don't want a WHINER/WEENIE..... they want a man. How about taking the money you are putting in an envelpoe and go use it to get some help. Go talk to someone about your issues instead of putting your self down. You probably have a lot to offer but you have to believe it first before you can sell it. Good Luck.
I agree with Hubba. Dude! I'm sure you have lots to offer. As Hubba said you just need a bit of confidence. Do you smile much at people? A genuine smile goes a long way even if you are fugly...not saying you are...but a smile brightens up everybody's day.

Try this and let us know how it works out. At work or with someone you are comfortable with, ask her to smile for you and don't accept any weak effort, they have to show some teeth. And if they give you a great big smile...show some appreciation with a kind comment like "you have a very nice smile"...even if it's not true but who cares, everybody feels great afterwards. Have an awesome one!!
 

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I think pooning just makes you think that sex comes easy in a relationship. Dating and finding a real connection with someone is hard work, even more so for certain people. What visioneast is talking about is part of the downside of pooning. Guys who got into pooning because for whatever reason they weren't having sex otherwise, then they look down on themselves. Visioneast I know I can identify with some of what you are talking about... I have my own set of circumstances that have made dating difficult. Still though, I've had relationships, I know I have a lot to offer, and I don't need a woman's approval to complete me. Seeking out a good counselor who can help you fiqure out what your issues are and how to find solutions to them will really help you out. Not just to have a relationship, but to be a happier person in general (this is the point, a co-dependent relationship won't help you at all). Also, just focusing on your own life in general helps. Find some constructive hobbies like exercise that can help make you happier in life and put you around other people. Bottom line is, work on yourself and become the man that the right woman will want, and she will come.

Also, I would suggest you quit pooning until you figure the above things out. Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting a different result.
 

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Maybe the problem is that most guys are only looking for girls that look like Jessica Alba. (Or whatever your fantasy is.)

The guys that say girls don't notice them, do you notice the girls that other guys don't? It works both ways.

If you feel you have nothing to offer, then girls will pick up on that.
A little bit of personal grooming, a cheerful personality, and girls will want to be around that person. Most women aren't as superficial as us, so looks don't matter too terribly much unless you're really repulsive. And even then, some personal grooming and stuff goes a long ways.

I personally don't engage in this hobby because I can't get laid. Quite the opposite, I'm in a long term relationship, (decades) and want a more adventurous sex life that allows me to indulge in my fantasies.

My SO is ok with this, and even hired an SP for a three way for my birthday.
As long as it's 'only sex'.

So hey, if I can get laid regularly, anyone can.
 

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Only The Lonely

I sit here, dreaming about the past. I think about those long-lost days, those high school memories. I lived then. I was so shudderingly, wonderingly longing for a girl, a woman, to complete me. I only wanted to slide my body up beside her, whoever she was, and taste her individual kiss on my lips.

Those days are so far in the past now. I hear the music, but where did those days go? They sped past... whipping the calendar into a blur of pages, months slurrying into years, draining me of my vitality.

Where did that girl go? She was just here! I can remember the sheen of her hair, the lustre of her tongue on her lips. Where went that lost woman, that partner that would complete me, I thought at the time?

She's gone. She never was. She was her, and her, and her again.

This is a fiction I write. I didn't find my dream-love, nor my demon lover. I did, though, find someone, in fact, several several someones, that satisfy me, and keep me kept, sane and in touch with others in a very intimate way.

In fact, I've found them over and over.

We all need an intimate realtionship, whether that be a sexual one, or a friendly one, or merely a spiritual one. Don Juan, and his island metaphor, spoke truely: we are not alone, and can't be.

My thoughts on any of your plights, if you have them: seek out someone, anyone, to hold tonight. If it's not the love of your life, at least you're cradling someone else in your arms, and if it's not love, then it's a near-miss that they at least can give you comfort.

Let's not amuse ourselves that love blossoms here, but let's acknowledge that, sometimes, friendly play can soothe the barbs of loneliness that some feel. To all that feel a longing, reach out, and hopefully that longing will be fulfilled.

Cheers,
Ghostwheel
 

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because they can't get laid the normal way?
Sure, there's probably a lot of us out there. I was always the nice guy or good guy friend who girls liked, just not in that way. So, I basically gave up and decided that if I waited for a relationship to happen, I'd probably be waiting forever. So, pooning is kind of a way for me to bide my time.
 

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Yeah, I started pooning in 02 and find it often has no meaning and leaves your wallet empty and depressed. I mean how much better would it be to get a bj from a gal you dont have to pay? Or that she wants to do it in the first place. Some of the guys that poon like there is no tommorrow are headed for a dead end. Sorry, thats just the way it is. This game hardly has any winners except for the ladies who get out with no STDs.

Of course getting laid feels great but how many of us would leave pooning to meet a mate who we think is our dream girl?
 
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I can totally relate to this guy. I am 30, and have only had sex once. It was 9 days before my 21st birthday, and when I got home from the bar, I called an escort service. I've never even had a girlfriend. In the last 6 months or so, I've been hanging out with a 24 year old girl and we are now each others closest, best friends. She is still not over her ex though, her first love. For a while, we talked about us dating when she was over the ex, but now she says she can't see herself with me. It hurts alot, and I'm now in the position of trying to decide if I should 1)keep trying to win her over 2)accept being just friends and keep her as my best friend or 3) saying goodbye to her forever.
But if it doesn't happen with her............I'm at a loss of what to do next. I am a little heavy these days, but by no means am I ugly or some freakish loser.
 

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Don't settle!

Maybe the problem is that most guys are only looking for girls that look like Jessica Alba. (Or whatever your fantasy is.)

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Hey, you gotta have standards!!!

My motto is ... I would rather have nothing, than something I really don't like...

I've shot down tons of women over the years, since they really just didn't do it for me... They were average looking girls at best, that didn't seem very exciting. - Note - None of them looking like Jessica Alba...but a few were cute.

For me, pooning takes out all the bullshit in relationships. I don't have the time or the patience for the games/demands ALL WOMEN PLAY!

Also, pooning let's me decide who I am going to fuck...the only real concern is how much. I'm not prepared to pay $300 an hr...so research is the key.

Pooning allows you to budget what you spend on women...relationships don't.

Finally, the pooning hunt is still to this day, exciting...
 
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I can totally relate to this guy. I am 30, and have only had sex once. It was 9 days before my 21st birthday, and when I got home from the bar, I called an escort service. I've never even had a girlfriend. In the last 6 months or so, I've been hanging out with a 24 year old girl and we are now each others closest, best friends. She is still not over her ex though, her first love. For a while, we talked about us dating when she was over the ex, but now she says she can't see herself with me. It hurts alot, and I'm now in the position of trying to decide if I should 1)keep trying to win her over 2)accept being just friends and keep her as my best friend or 3) saying goodbye to her forever.
But if it doesn't happen with her............I'm at a loss of what to do next. I am a little heavy these days, but by no means am I ugly or some freakish loser.
I've been in this situation once...only difference being...I eventually had sex with her, after 6 months of just being "friends". She called me a few times at work and asked me what I was up to...etc...which eventually led to a few dates. I decided soon after, that she wasn't worth the headaches of trying to impress her/please her/ and her friends. She had pretty expensive tastes and an average date would cost me easily $ each time.

My recommendation to you is...if you can't get over your feelings for her, it's best to pick #3.
 

Keithks

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Maybe the problem is that most guys are only looking for girls that look like Jessica Alba. (Or whatever your fantasy is.)

The guys that say girls don't notice them, do you notice the girls that other guys don't? It works both ways.
I have no standards at this point. Pussy is pussy is pussy. Yeah, obviously I'd rather have someone who's a 9 than a 4 in my book, but I'm not going to turn down the 4.

There seems to be this misconception that unattractive chicks are significantly easier than attractive ones. I haven't found this to be the case.
 

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visioneast I almost wanna cry after reading your posts (almost)....we need to get you some confidence. actually you need to get some confidence. women don't want a WHINER/WEENIE..... they want a man. How about taking the money you are putting in an envelpoe and go use it to get some help. Go talk to someone about your issues instead of putting your self down. You probably have a lot to offer but you have to believe it first before you can sell it. Good Luck.
I agree with Hubba. Dude! I'm sure you have lots to offer. As Hubba said you just need a bit of confidence. Do you smile much at people? A genuine smile goes a long way even if you are fugly...not saying you are...but a smile brightens up everybody's day.

Try this and let us know how it works out. At work or with someone you are comfortable with, ask her to smile for you and don't accept any weak effort, they have to show some teeth. And if they give you a great big smile...show some appreciation with a kind comment like "you have a very nice smile"...even if it's not true but who cares, everybody feels great afterwards. Have an awesome one!!
I think pooning just makes you think that sex comes easy in a relationship. Dating and finding a real connection with someone is hard work, even more so for certain people. What visioneast is talking about is part of the downside of pooning. Guys who got into pooning because for whatever reason they weren't having sex otherwise, then they look down on themselves. Visioneast I know I can identify with some of what you are talking about... I have my own set of circumstances that have made dating difficult. Still though, I've had relationships, I know I have a lot to offer, and I don't need a woman's approval to complete me. Seeking out a good counselor who can help you fiqure out what your issues are and how to find solutions to them will really help you out. Not just to have a relationship, but to be a happier person in general (this is the point, a co-dependent relationship won't help you at all). Also, just focusing on your own life in general helps. Find some constructive hobbies like exercise that can help make you happier in life and put you around other people. Bottom line is, work on yourself and become the man that the right woman will want, and she will come.

Also, I would suggest you quit pooning until you figure the above things out. Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting a different result.
Maybe the problem is that most guys are only looking for girls that look like Jessica Alba. (Or whatever your fantasy is.)

The guys that say girls don't notice them, do you notice the girls that other guys don't? It works both ways.

If you feel you have nothing to offer, then girls will pick up on that.
A little bit of personal grooming, a cheerful personality, and girls will want to be around that person. Most women aren't as superficial as us, so looks don't matter too terribly much unless you're really repulsive. And even then, some personal grooming and stuff goes a long ways.
You are all good people... I expected to be laughed at. :(

Sometimes I thought maybe I deserve to be lonely because I did bad things in my previous life. I will take up all your advices and I will quit making excuses and try to get some help. :(
 

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I Love Women

Thats it.
I Love Women.
Big, small, fat, skinny, hairy.
I Love Women.
Any opportunity to Love women I'm there.
Slut?
Fuck you.
I love women
 

Enchanted One

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Plenty in Your Boat

You are all good people... I expected to be laughed at.

Sometimes I thought maybe I deserve to be lonely because I did
bad things in my previous life. I will take up all your advices and I
will quit making excuses and try to get some help. (visoneast)



You are certainly not alone. You have plenty of company. It's not like we
take a course in Relationship 101 in school. I have a middle aged male
friend who has never had a long term romantic relationship though he
has plenty to offer in other departments (he's smart, very loyal and an
all around good person but somehow he's not exactly a chick magnet).

I think you have more than enough to offer but just don't know it yet.
Regardless of your looks, educational background & job status, there
are some traits all women find attractive in men: confidence, a sense
of humor, integrity and good interpersonal skills. Also a mysterious
factor called 'sex appeal' (some people have it naturally, others need
to cultivate it).

No, you are not destined to be alone. There truly is somebody out there
for you.
 

Keithks

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lol...maybe they think you're a 4?
Why should I care? I don't derive my self-esteem from how "pretty" people think I am.

I'm being objective. I want chicks who can give me hard-ons. You're just hurling insults, because I hurt your little feelings.

Anyway, what does that have to do with what we're talking about?
 
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Sometimes I think youth is wasted on the young. Keith, I would say relaxxxx, you are only 18! My god, I didn't get laid until I was 23 and now, in my 40's, I find it quite easy to meet women. When I was younger, I was shy, insecure, not confident, misread women's signals, and generally didn't have a clue how to attract a woman.

Young women often are looking for the bad boy type, or the jock or the hunk, and ignoring the nice guy they are friends with. Believe me, that changes in time, and they will come to appreciate the good guy you are.
 

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Maybe the problem is that most guys are only looking for girls that look like Jessica Alba. (Or whatever your fantasy is.)

The guys that say girls don't notice them, do you notice the girls that other guys don't? It works both ways.

If you feel you have nothing to offer, then girls will pick up on that.
A little bit of personal grooming, a cheerful personality, and girls will want to be around that person. Most women aren't as superficial as us, so looks don't matter too terribly much unless you're really repulsive. And even then, some personal grooming and stuff goes a long ways.

want a more adventurous sex life that allows me to indulge in my fantasies.



So hey, if I can get laid regularly, anyone can.

Bingo, if you will only pursue a 10 and ignore the 7's your going to go a long time between dates. If you have any type of a sense of humor and put on a clean shirt, get a decent hair cut 80% of the ladies you talk to will at the very least chat for a few minutes.

SP should be a fun, exciting diversion, not the be all and end all of you sex life. It's nice to able to pick what ever type of girl that turns you on that day be it tall and blond, Asian spinner or what ever.
 

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The guys I know who are in successful relationship are not with 9's and 10's. If you want a real relationship you can't be looking for what you look for in an SP. Simply put, the hotter the woman is, the more fucked up she is. I am guilty of trying to have a "relationship" just for sex, and just going for looks ignoring huge flaws in personality. It doesn't work. Everyone knows it. Unfortunately, the fantasy life of pooning and anything you could call a healthy relationship are far removed. Look at those old couples who've been married for 50 years and still hold hands? Do they still bang 3 times a day? Does she still look hot at 80 yrs old? Hell no. There has to be something to that.
 
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