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SweetCee

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I feel like I am posting a lot... damn. I need my domm to visit I think. sigh. Sometimes being a sub is tough.

Moving right along.

Those of you reading my posts can probably gather that I am new to this sort of thing as a lifstyle and/or community. I have, in fact, stumbled upon all of my bdsm relationships instead of going out and finding them. I do believe in a domdar - like gaydar but different.

My question is this - I know that there are sub categories in submission and domination and am courious as to what my personal kink would be called.

I don't go as far as rape games, but I am not personally about total and immediate submission. I started thinking about this because of Mistress Onyx's q. about how a sub feels pre session. I always spend about an hour getting really pissed off because I am a fighter.

I like to piss off my dom. I get out my agression and am very disrespectful - more so than I could EVER be in RL. For me sub is about being put in my place - of course over the course of a play date I do in fact submit, well if the dom is good at least.

It is like the urge to switch. In rl I am a agressive strong willed woman. As a sub I am not looking to be obedient because I like it - I am looking for a master or mistress who is so charasmtic and strong willed that they overcome me and I have no choice but to submit.

One master called me "the sassy sub" but surley there is a more "technical" term for this sub category of BDSM.
 

OilMan

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I am NOT an expert....

but to me you are the quintesential submissive, I would expect your excitement comes from seeing how far you can push your Dom/Domme before they punish you, but you like the punishment just as much. The immediate and complete submissive you referred to is a slave, they are servants, and they do not like punishment or displeasing their Master/Mistress.
 

SweetCee

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I would expect your excitement comes from seeing how far you can push your Dom/Domme before they punish you, but you like the punishment just as much.
sub vs. slave makes a lot of sense...

My excitment comes from finding someone strong enough (this is a personality thing not a physical thing) to bend me to their whim. I am attracted these types of people, but being a strong personality myself it takes a lot of willpower to break me (at least that is what I hear. to a lifestyler I am probably pretty light)

Of course I love the punishment!!! That's why I work so hard to deserve it.
 

tampdown

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Sub catagories in bdsm...

I feel like I am posting a lot... damn. I need my domm to visit I think. sigh. Sometimes being a sub is tough.

Moving right along.

Those of you reading my posts can probably gather that I am new to this sort of thing as a lifstyle and/or community. I have, in fact, stumbled upon all of my bdsm relationships instead of going out and finding them. I do believe in a domdar - like gaydar but different.

My question is this - I know that there are sub categories in submission and domination and am courious as to what my personal kink would be called.

I don't go as far as rape games, but I am not personally about total and immediate submission. I started thinking about this because of Mistress Onyx's q. about how a sub feels pre session. I always spend about an hour getting really pissed off because I am a fighter.

I like to piss off my dom. I get out my agression and am very disrespectful - more so than I could EVER be in RL. For me sub is about being put in my place - of course over the course of a play date I do in fact submit, well if the dom is good at least.

It is like the urge to switch. In rl I am a agressive strong willed woman. As a sub I am not looking to be obedient because I like it - I am looking for a master or mistress who is so charasmtic and strong willed that they overcome me and I have no choice but to submit.

One master called me "the sassy sub" but surley there is a more "technical" term for this sub category of BDSM.
SweetCee,

You probably know there are various catagories and convention based definitions. But... the catagories and definitions aren't "fixed" and there is some debate about exact meaning. In other words, the definitions vary between people.

However, here are the basic catagories (according to my definitions), some of which are overlapping.

masochist - arosed by pain

submissive - "submits" to a dominant, with an element of giving up some element of power

slave - feels the need to serve (and submit) outside simple bdsm session which is often worked out in some kind of slave contract or arrangement

(It is sometimes said that a slave's goal is surrender and obedience. In contrast, a submissive tends to expect some gratification in return for his or her submission.)

bottom - does not imply that the person is submissive, but refers to the person, in a bdsm context, who receives stimulation from the other. The bottom can give instructions to the "top"

(Some distinguish top/bottom from dominant/submissive by seeing top/bottom as an expression of physical power, while dominant/submissive is an expression of psychological power... although I'm not sure I would completely agree with this.)

There is also a catagory known as a SAM - a smart assed masochist. This is someone (not submissive) who would provoke (piss off, annoy, etc) a dominant into giving him or her pain or abuse or torture as punishment.

So.... I am thinking, on the bais of what you have said, that your are a SAS - a smart assed submissive.

But, in some ways this is a contradictory term. So... I wonder whether you are in fact submissive at all... since it seems that you are still very much controlling the situation (ie. the reaction of the dom).

tamp
 

SweetCee

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That's me...

An old non BDSM bf of mine told me that he wasn't interested in Dom because Sub is where all the power is. Anyone with confidence and some training can put on a show of control (NOT saying anyone can be a dom, and a GOOD dom is a whole nother creature as well) If the sub doesn't submit there is only so much a dom can do about it - where as in the choosing how a sub will submit and the choice of when to had the power over lies the sub power.

He was a very charismatic man, and he convinced me. This may not be right for everyone but it works for me. I suppose it that means I am not submissive then well I am not submissive!

Oh yeah and thanks for replying despite recent attacks on my character.
 

uncleg

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Sounds to me that you are a "brat." Nothing a good flogging can't cure.:)
 

Bayside2006

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Well Sweet, good D-s is mental and emotional as well as physical, so that sassy aspect you describe in yourself is just fine. When you find a Dom who is so mentally and emotionally strong--like you mentioned needingyou will likely find your sassy side deminishing somewhat; especially if pleasing him means being less sassy--as you will want to please that strength so that you can have it from him.

You sound like a girl with much potential...keep on posting.
 
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