Boycott IAMS pet food?

Randy Whorewald

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Does anyone know if this crap is true?

For nearly 10 months in 2002 and early 2003, a PETA investigator went undercover at an Iams contract testing laboratory, where a dark, sordid secret was discovered beneath the the dog- and cat-food manufacturer’s wholesome image. Our investigator found dogs who had gone crazy from intense confinement in barren steel cages and cement cells, dogs who had been left on a filthy paint-chipped floor after chunks of muscle had been hacked from their thighs, dogs who had been surgically debarked, and horribly sick dogs and cats who were languishing in their cages, neglected and left to suffer without veterinary care.



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littlejimbigher

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I don't always totally believe what some of these groups like PETA say. Many groups/ organizations exagerate or even lie to get their message out to the public and justify this by saying that the know they are in the right and everone else is in the wrong .
However, creulty to animals is the one thing that can make me tear up. I can handle people killing other people and hardly blink but when I hear of an abused animal I go all teary eyed.
 

chilli

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Unfortuantely it mostly is true.

It has been proven time and time again, that "people" are mean spirited and think these kinds of things are "funny".

People have no problem putitng "boogers" in your food at restaurants, spitting in vats or peeing.

For you guys to think nothing else is EXTREMELY niave.

It must be nice to live in your world.

I guess not knowing is probably better.
 

Tralalalalalala

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I'm a former PETA member (emphasis on the former, they're an evil, evil, evil organization.) boycotting Iams is pretty much the only thing I still do from my peta days.... I've seen for myself some of the things they do and it's horrifying.
 

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Randy Whorewald said:
For starters PETA can suck my furry ball sack! I love, no adore animals but PETA is made up of a bunch of psychotic and dangerous hypocrites.


Randy Whorewald said:
dogs who had gone crazy from intense confinement in barren steel cages and cement cells, dogs who had been left on a filthy paint-chipped floor after chunks of muscle had been hacked from their thighs, dogs who had been surgically debarked, and horribly sick dogs and cats who were languishing in their cages, neglected and left to suffer without veterinary care
Simply put, why would Iams or any other company do that? Even if they were the most loathsome of organizations who had no regard for animal well being what's in it for them to treat an animal so badly vs. putting it down? I'm not defending Iams (in part because I think their product is one step above what comes out of my dogs ass) but you have to question the objectivity of an organization like PETA when they have an extreemly radical agenda.


littlejimbigher said:
I can handle people killing other people and hardly blink but when I hear of an abused animal I go all teary eyed.
Exactly! I can easily rationalize adults hurting one another, being in pain and likewise it simply doesn't phase me emotionally. There are usually circumstances that have led to their altercation or accident that could have been prevented. Animals on the other hand.....totally different story since they don't have hidden agendas or malicious intent.


chilli said:
Unfortuantely it mostly is true.

It has been proven time and time again, that "people" are mean spirited and think these kinds of things are "funny".

People have no problem putitng "boogers" in your food at restaurants, spitting in vats or peeing.

For you guys to think nothing else is EXTREMELY niave.

It must be nice to live in your world.

I guess not knowing is probably better.
Pardon? How do you go from tortured animals to some disgruntled waiter making minimum wage?
 

JustAGuy

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gravitas said:
Animals on the other hand.....totally different story since they don't have hidden agendas or malicious intent.
You haven't met my cat. :eek: :D
 

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gravitas said:
Simply put, why would Iams or any other company do that?
Uh, yeah, what does a surgically debarked dog have to do with making dog food?
 

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westwoody said:
Uh, yeah, what does a surgically debarked dog have to do with making dog food?
If it doesn't make sense (for a corporation this means: more profit) then it's probably not true.............
 

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gravitas said:
I'm not defending Iams (in part because I think their product is one step above what comes out of my dogs ass)
I'm afraid to ask how exactly did you made this judgement on the quality of their dog food. :eek:
 

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FWIW, here is IAMS response:
http://www.iamstruth.com/iamstruth/en_US/jhtmls/article/IT_Article_Page.jhtml?li=en_US&pti=RP&articleID=6

An animal rights organization is making misleading allegations about feeding studies performed for The Iams Company at an external facility that we left in early 2003. These allegations not only are old, but also are highly sensationalized and laced with untruths.

Here are the facts about Iams:

FACT: Posing as an animal lover, an activist "undercover investigator" was hired for an Iams-funded role in the contract facility. She had responsibility for the socialization and enrichment of the dogs participating in Iams' feeding studies, and was paid to develop and implement a program to ensure that these dogs were well cared for. Rather than focusing on her assignment she captured video not of the scenes of the socialization and enrichment activities she was being paid to develop and deliver, but of dogs and cats that were housed in the same facility but not a part of Iams studies.
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PeterLongwood said:
If it doesn't make sense (for a corporation this means: more profit) then it's probably not true.............
Exactly. If iams or any other company has an animal that is troublesome or has outlived its usefulness (as sad as that may be) its euthanized. Why would the continue to have rooms filled with starving cats and dogs?


wolverine said:
I'm afraid to ask how exactly did you made this judgement on the quality of their dog food. :eek:
I think you've taken me a touch too laterally. I'm just picky with what I feed my dog and prefer to use a feed that isn't packed with preservatives.


cancowboy2001 said:
FWIW, here is IAMS response
Although its provided by Iams and therefore obviously biased I'm 99.999% inclined to believe their story over those peta cock suckers. If any of you are interested Penn & Teller take a run at peta in their Bullshit! show (season 2).....pretty good program and even if 1/2 of what they disclose is true I hope Ingrid Newkirk and her band of terrorists rot in hell!
 

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It says "a contract testing company."

So I suspect you have some company that got a contract from Iams to feed 50 dogs variety x and 50 dogs variety y and after 3 months see which ones weigh more or something similar. Or try flavor c and flavour d and see which one most of the dogs choose.

It is quite possible that this company isn't following standards, or even doing the tests. They probably get their animals from the local pound ( quite common in many areas ) so the animals will often be in bad shape in the first place.

Hell, it's even possible that the "testing company" is run by some misguided person that is trying to save animals and is trying to use the iams contract to feed them. Sadly a lot of the houses found with 200 cats in them are because of people that think they are "saving" the animals.

Probably iams needs to tighten their review and oversight proceedures. But I've had too much familiarity with PETA to put any faith in what they say. I've had the head of the local chapter tell me flat out that it's all right to lie and invent stories as long as it serves the end result. I've also known members to steal parrots from pet stores to "save" them and then keep the birds locked up in an unlighted cold drafty basement room. And I've seen PETA members kill their cats by making them vegetarian.

The basic philosophy of the organization seems to be that no one should have anything to do with animals in any way ... except of course for members of PETA who can do no wrong because they are the only ones that really care. I personally think the organization not only doesn't help animals, it is positively dangerous.
 

Tralalalalalala

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expedition said:
It says "a contract testing company."

So I suspect you have some company that got a contract from Iams to feed 50 dogs variety x and 50 dogs variety y and after 3 months see which ones weigh more or something similar. Or try flavor c and flavour d and see which one most of the dogs choose.

It is quite possible that this company isn't following standards, or even doing the tests. They probably get their animals from the local pound ( quite common in many areas ) so the animals will often be in bad shape in the first place.

Hell, it's even possible that the "testing company" is run by some misguided person that is trying to save animals and is trying to use the iams contract to feed them. Sadly a lot of the houses found with 200 cats in them are because of people that think they are "saving" the animals.

Probably iams needs to tighten their review and oversight proceedures. But I've had too much familiarity with PETA to put any faith in what they say. I've had the head of the local chapter tell me flat out that it's all right to lie and invent stories as long as it serves the end result. I've also known members to steal parrots from pet stores to "save" them and then keep the birds locked up in an unlighted cold drafty basement room. And I've seen PETA members kill their cats by making them vegetarian.

The basic philosophy of the organization seems to be that no one should have anything to do with animals in any way ... except of course for members of PETA who can do no wrong because they are the only ones that really care. I personally think the organization not only doesn't help animals, it is positively dangerous.
Again, speaking as a former PETA member, they're unbelivably evil. They claim to save animals but on average they rescue 300 or so animals a year, and kill around 3200 (I didn't know that when I joined). The thing that sent up a red flag for me was that they give advertizing space, awards and such to Boca Burgers....which although they're vegetarian, are made by Philip Morris. And PETA has a campaign against Philip Morris. So I kept asking people higher up in the organization about it, and they just said not to ask questions...then I found out that they receive funding from Philip Morris. Anyways! The same goes for fast food places. PETA goes after them, until they give PETA funding, and then they not only call off the attack, but they encourage members to go there.

All that being said, Iams is still evil.
 

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I think Iams maybe clean in this, but their parent company is not by any means. P&G uses Iams as a smoke screen for all the other stuff they do with animals. P&G is after all a satanic company, just look at their logo!
 

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QUESTION...My dog only eats lamb and rice, for 12 years, should I feel sorry for all those cute little lambs
 
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