Herpes or other STD from massage?

fanvan

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Can you get herpes or other infections from a back massage or touching even if there is no genital or oral contact?
 

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fanvan said:
Can you get herpes or other infections from a back massage or touching even if there is no genital or oral contact?

Hi fanvan


There is a condition called Herpetic Whitlow, which causes herpes sores on the fingers. This uncommon kind of herpes is most contagious when there is a wet, open lesion. So if a sore is present on the finger, then it is possible you could get herpes transmission in this way. Theoretically one could get herpes from a back rub, but this is very unlikely.

The important thing to remember is that the majority of herpes transmission occurs via oral and genital contact.

Here is a link to a thread we did on herpes for additional information

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46542

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john23

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Isn't it true that oral herpes and genital herpes are different viruses? I'd heard that genital herpes can't survive very well away from the genitalia.
 

geewhiz

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HSV1 and HSV2, what's the difference?

herpes simplex 1 is the cold sore. herpes simplex 2 is "herpes". in days when oral sex was considered taboo, hsv1 was found on the lips and mouth, whereas hsv2 was found on genetalia. currently in north america and europe, both forms are found in both mouth and genetalia.

in the end, it does not matter, as herpes is herpes and you have it for life.

also, some people can spread it without having visible sores, which is known as viral shedding.
 

boonerdog

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There is no difference between genital and oral herpes

This post is thankfully correct. Most people don't realize that a cold sore and a genital herpetic lesion are indistinguishable other than through their location. Herpes is herpes. The false distinction of herpes simplex 1 as opposed to 2 was done to make people with cold sores not feel bad about having herpes. The fact is that you can transmit herpes to most anyplace on the body that is either a mucous membrane, or an open wound. Thus, if you have a cold sore on your mouth and engage in oral sex, you can give someone genital herpes, and visa-versa. There is no cure for herpes, yet, but studies have shown that taking Valtrex on a prophylactic basis reduces the frequency and severity of outbreaks, though you can potentially transmit the virus without signs of actual lesions. Not only can you transmit the virus to other people, you can transmit it to other parts of your own body. Care should be taken whenever one has an obvious outbreak to not touch the lesions and then other parts of the body, especially the eyes.
 

rollerboy

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boonerdog said:
This post is thankfully correct. Most people don't realize that a cold sore and a genital herpetic lesion are indistinguishable other than through their location. Herpes is herpes. The false distinction of herpes simplex 1 as opposed to 2 was done to make people with cold sores not feel bad about having herpes.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001324.htm

Herpes Simplex 1 and 2 are not the same virus. It is possible to be infected with one but not the other, or with both simultaneously.

Both viruses can infect the oral and genital regions, although Simplex 1 has a strong predilection for the oral region, while Simplex 2 is more likely to take up residence in the genital region.

Simplex 1 infection is more common than simplex 2, and generally manifests itself as cold sores in or around the mouth. Prior infection by one type reduces the odds of infection by the other.
 

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john23 said:
Isn`t it true that oral herpes and genital herpes are different viruses? I`d heard that genital herpes can`t survive very well away from the genitalia.

There are two different types of the herpes simplex virus (HSV) type 1 and type 2. Type 1 occurs most often on or near the mouth and type 2 occurs most often on or near the genitals.

HSV remains dormant in the nerve ganglia so it can basically infect anywhere on the body. HSV on the mouth and genitals is more common as it is easier to infect the mucosal surfaces.

Type 1 & 2 can both infect the mouth and genitals it is just that if someone has an outbreak of HSV on the genitals we call it genital herpes and if someone has an outbreak on the mouth we call it a cold sore.

I find the main difference between oral and genital herpes is that one has a social stigma and the other does not.

Here is a link to a thread we did on herpes for additional information

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46542


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