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A former player with Canada's national men's basketball team says some high-profile investors are trying to bring the National Basketball Association back to Vancouver...
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I'm pumped for this. As bad as they were, I always had a fuckin' blast at a Grizzlies game. Was totally bummed when we lost the franchise.
And it's one sport that women actually enjoy going to. :)
 

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Trailblazers are reportedly in financial trouble. Team owner Paul Allen recently made the Trailblazers' finances public. He says the team will lose $100 million over the next three years.
Of course, Paul Allen is one of the few people who can afford to lose $100 million without batting an eyelash. It's the equivalent of the amount the rest of us lose annually to the cushions in our sofa.

I heard recently that even with a playoff contender, the Grizzlies have drawn fewer fans in Memphis than the team did in Vancouver. I'm not a basketball fan at all, but it feels an awful lot like the franchise didn't leave so much as they were stolen.
 

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it would be awesome. big country and a weak canadian dollar sunk our team and yes they were stolen from us unjustly. but now the conditions are different. no big country to pay (pretty sure memphis is still paying him despite the fact he has been retired for like three years) and a very strong canadian dollar.

the conditions are much better and i think the nba could make a go of it here again. attendence despite the fact they did nothing but lose never really seemed to be a problem.
 

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i loved Super Grizz. that guy was awesome.

one game i was at, the Grizzlies were losing and a couple got up to leave early. as they were walking up the stairs, Super Grizz was walking down. he stopped right in the middle of the stairs, put his hands on his hips and started to shake his head. they weren't going anywhere. he then put up one hand (paw?) and started to do that turn around gesture. the couple looked at each other and turned around and sat back down in their seats. they stayed for the rest of the game.
 

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the vancouver trailblazers is even still a pretty cool and realevent name for a team in this city, not like the memphis grizzlies or the utah jazz. man i really hope this happens.
 

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DJLAW said:
i loved Super Grizz. that guy was awesome.

one game i was at, the Grizzlies were losing and a couple got up to leave early. as they were walking up the stairs, Super Grizz was walking down. he stopped right in the middle of the stairs, put his hands on his hips and started to shake his head. they weren't going anywhere. he then put up one hand (paw?) and started to do that turn around gesture. the couple looked at each other and turned around and sat back down in their seats. they stayed for the rest of the game.
LMAO! That's awesome.
 

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Perhaps the Jailblazers will all do much better with a change of scenery. Having all those losers on one team over the last several years has ruined my interest in the NBA so I focus on college ball now. My only NBA interest is in the younger players who have recently graduated from the college ranks. You can have them and it can't come too soon. They won't be missed here.
 

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With the exception of a few, the minorities of color hated Vancouver. Vancouver is not black enough. (Taking all things in to consideration its understandable.) The elite players in the NBA won't want to play in Vancouver. If you can't get the best basketball players coming to your city who do you have left? How about that sack of shit we chose in the first round when Mr. Griffth thought it would be kool to have the NBA in Vancouver. What was his name? Big Dummy, Big Duh.........Big Country? Bin there done that. Vancouver was doomed to fail right from the start.

Not sure if i'm looking to see that happen again.
 

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Kev said:
With the exception of a few, the minorities of color hated Vancouver. Vancouver is not black enough. (Taking all things in to consideration its understandable.) The elite players in the NBA won't want to play in Vancouver. If you can't get the best basketball players coming to your city who do you have left? How about that sack of shit we chose in the first round when Mr. Griffth thought it would be kool to have the NBA in Vancouver. What was his name? Big Dummy, Big Duh.........Big Country? Bin there done that. Vancouver was doomed to fail right from the start.

Not sure if i'm looking to see that happen again.
hey man, we've got memphis blues bbq house:D . also portland and seattle both are not exactly hot beds of "black culture" either but they have teams.
 
I was a season ticket holder of the Grizzlies right until the bitter end. The problem with the Grizzlies was not Big Country. You can't find 10 centers in the NBA now (when scoring is up) who average 16 and 8 as he did in his best years. The guy was the 6th pick. The Raptors picked Rafael Araujo last year at 8 and he's nailed to their bench.

The Grizzlies had three problems:

1) David Stern screwed us by restricting our picks and how much we could spend early on.
2) We simply never got long-odds lucky with the picks we had (Vince Carter was a fluke pick for the Raptors).
3) Our media never appreciated the sport and they let Michael Heisley and Dick Versace bamboozle them.

If we get the Trailblazers and Steve Nash somehow ends his career here, the media will eat it up. If he did ever come, we'd have no trouble getting stars to play here.
 

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I loved watching the Grizzlies and going to the games, even if the team sucked. Also really liked Don Poier, excellent play-by-play announcer.

I'd love to have an established team back here again, especially with a dedicated owner (*coughcough*heisleysux*cough*).
 

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Keep the TrailBlazers in Portland!!!

My family were season ticketholders for the Vancouver Grizzlies too for their 6 seasons @ General Motors Place, and I would love to see the NBA return to Vancouver BUT the Trailblazers should remain in Portland because they have had one of the best fan support in the NBA and it's a basketball town! It would be like the Canucks leaving and going to Portland, even though Vancouver is a hockey town. I think it's bullshit that the owners in both Seattle and Portland are threatning to move their teams by putting a gun to their cities head.
 

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scott231 said:
I think it's bullshit that the owners in both Seattle and Portland are threatning to move their teams by putting a gun to their cities head.
I agree, but this happens almost everywhere, in almost every sport. Even Steinbrenner in New York has threatened to move the Yankees if the city didn't give him something-or-other.

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It would be like the Canucks leaving and going to Portland, even though Vancouver is a hockey town.
People (usually the local media) always say that. "Vancouver is a hockey town!" But anyone who has spent any time in Toronto or Montreal knows that these are just words, most likely right outta the Orca Bay press kit. Truly, it'd be too bad if the Blazers left Portland, but it's not like it's the 76ers leaving Philly or the Celtics leaving Boston.
 

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i would love to see the trailblazers in vancouver. but if they get a shotty gm then it will be another long term project.
 
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On the surface this seems like a huge joke... The Trailblazers still have an image problem nationally as a team of potheads and malcontents so where do they want to go... to a place that's known as the source of the best weed around. I can just hear Jim Rome now...:rolleyes:
 

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LutherBlissett said:
I was a season ticket holder of the Grizzlies right until the bitter end. The problem with the Grizzlies was not Big Country. You can't find 10 centers in the NBA now (when scoring is up) who average 16 and 8 as he did in his best years. The guy was the 6th pick. The Raptors picked Rafael Araujo last year at 8 and he's nailed to their bench.

The Grizzlies had three problems:

1) David Stern screwed us by restricting our picks and how much we could spend early on.
2) We simply never got long-odds lucky with the picks we had (Vince Carter was a fluke pick for the Raptors).
3) Our media never appreciated the sport and they let Michael Heisley and Dick Versace bamboozle them.

If we get the Trailblazers and Steve Nash somehow ends his career here, the media will eat it up. If he did ever come, we'd have no trouble getting stars to play here.
big country wasn't the only problem but he was a big part of it. he was extremely over paid. also don't forget he was being paid in american dollars at a time when the canadian dollar was 63 cents u.s., also yeah he may have had 16 points and 8 boards in his best years maybe one or two years but he was always hurt and he played at a time when the good centres were getting at least 25 points a game between 8 to 13 rebounds and blocking about 2 to 6 shots a game. did you ever see big country block a shot? his offence in his best years was not too bad but his defense was atrocious.

big country played in the time when patrick ewing, hakeem olijuwan, alonzo mourning, david robinson, shaq and host of other big guys were ruling the paint. against these guys big country does not stack up. big country stacked up more with greg ostertag.

but he wasn't the only problem but he was the 2nd biggest problem. the first biggest problem was stu jackson for drafting his ass and making bad moves.
 

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If any city gets an NBA team it will be Oklahoma City with the sucess of the
New Orleans Hornets their in line first, so are Kansas City and Las Vegas before Vancouver. I'd love to see the Memphis Grizzlies move back to Vancouver BUT not Portland, so much history in that city, with Bill Walton, Clyde Drexler, Jerome Kersey, and a die hard fan base.
 

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SFMIKE said:
I received this link in an e-mail from my son who is a season ticket holder. It look like things are not going too well for the Blazers right now. They used to have it so good.
http://www.nba.com/blazers/news/A_Conversation_With_Paul_Allen-171563-41.html
Maybe somebody is interested in reading it.
Interesting read, SF. Allen is a class act IMO.
...we undertook what in retrospect was an overly aggressive spending approach without the proper consideration for character. The need for change became very apparent, so I made changes. We are still only part way through the rebuilding process, which is even more painful. And believe me, I regret taking prior management’s recommendations to trade for Shawn Kemp and trading away Jermaine O'Neal....
 
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