Fat content in food

Dakota Wood

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So, I was buying a Signature Soups brand of 'homemade' style soup from Safeway (it's in the deli section). It seemed like a nice, healthy dinner solution. But no, some of them contain 118% of your daily fat intake in a one cup serving! That means, if you ate the entire portion, which is just over 2 1/2 cups (not unreasonable for a bowl of soup meant for a meal), you shouldnt eat anything for the next 3 days if you want to maintain your weight...nice. I am aware of the obvious fat stackers, like Burger King's mondo breakfast sub. No suprise there. I hope that other members will post their input and info regarding 'sneaky' fattening foods.
 

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But, but, but... those Signature soups (especially the tomato one) are so goooooddd!!
 

LonelyGhost

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Dakota Wood said:
So, I was buying a Signature Soups brand of 'homemade' style soup from Safeway (it's in the deli section). It seemed like a nice, healthy dinner solution. But no, some of them contain 118% of your daily fat intake in a one cup serving! That means, if you ate the entire portion, which is just over 2 1/2 cups (not unreasonable for a bowl of soup meant for a meal), you shouldnt eat anything for the next 3 days if you want to maintain your weight...nice. I am aware of the obvious fat stackers, like Burger King's mondo breakfast sub. No suprise there. I hope that other members will post their input and info regarding 'sneaky' fattening foods.
well, maybe ... the first question is what kind of fat? if its the good stuff, then it is less likely to cause problems then the bad fats (saturated and trans fats).

the other thing is that 'fat' gets a bad name when in fact it is not all bad for you ... for one thing, good fats provide important nutrients your body needs ... second, fat is what gives food its taste -- all that crap thrown into most processed foods is there because they took some fat out.

and while diet is important, exercise is much more important for losing or maintaining weight!

BTW: how important is fat? when your body needs energy, it first uses the glycogin in your muscles, then it burns the muscles themselves and when there's nothing left, it will start on the fat ...

so, the Q about the soup? just add some cooked brown rice to it and use less of the soup ... you get the benefits of a balanced but tasty meal that will fill you up and have fewer calories.

the bottom line is that anything that causes your insulin to rise will cause you to get fat ... but fat itself does not cause your insulin to rise as fast or as much as eating simple carbs.

better off with the fat soup than the crackers you put in it!

:)
 

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Dakota Wood said:
So, I was buying a Signature Soups brand of 'homemade' style soup from Safeway - some of them contain 118% of your daily fat intake in a one cup serving!
Interesting timing that you bring this up. I had previously purchased a number of the same soups with the same logic that "its soup so it must be healthy". Enjoyed the Tuscan Tomato and Potato Bacon and thought they tasted very good, almost too good. I checked the packaging and just like you was shocked at the fat and calorie content. :eek:
 

Cock Throppled

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Not sure about those particular soups, but most also contains huge amounts of sodium.
 

Dakota Wood

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Massagegirl said:
MSG is now labelled a spice so you will never see it on the label, although it will surely be in there for an appetite stimulant(it's an excitotoxin).
Like alot of people, MSG is a migraine trigger for me. How nice that it won't be listed :(
 

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LonelyGhost said:
BTW: how important is fat? when your body needs energy, it first uses the glycogin in your muscles, then it burns the muscles themselves and when there's nothing left, it will start on the fat ...
:)
Not entirely true. Carbohydrate is stored in the body as glycogen. When you run out of glycogen the body begins to burn fat ..... then it starts eating muscle tissue.

When marathon runners "hit the wall" they've run out of glycogen -- not a good thing. It means they've been running too fast and have gone from an aerobic state (which burns fat which we all have a lot of) to an anaerobic state (which burns glycogen and we only have an hour or more of it in our bodies). By keeping your heart rate under 75% of your maximum you burn primarily fat which allows you to run longer without "hitting the wall" and experiencing the onsetting fatigue.

Good fats are things like olive oil and coconut oil, most of the other stuff is just crap that plugs your arteries.
 

westwoody

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Chingada said:
By keeping your heart rate under 75% of your maximum you burn primarily fat
Few people understand this. You see them at the Y busting their gut and not getting anywhere. Slow down! A good heart rate monitor is cheap and a very good investment.
 

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I eat on average, 9 to 11 times the daily calories

recomended by the Canada food guide.
I think their recomended daily intake must be for someone who never moves off the couch.
I have gained maybe 4 lbs in the past 10 years, and eat anything i want.
But i keep active, and that is the key.
I cringe when people go into a building and ride the elevator to only access the 2nd or 3rd floor.
Or are out shopping, and drive to the next shop just a block or 2 away from where they are already parked. Its that type of inactivity in many cases that causes some people to be obese.
For sedetary people take small steps frst....if you go to a mall with a large parking lot, park on the outside edge farthest from the entrance.
If you enter a multi story building, use the stairs instead of the lift.
Most places have an aquatic centre fairly nearby, swim some laps, and then relax in the hot tub.
Or join a walking club.
Maybe take an exercise call, or sign up for martial arts, even if you could care less about self defense, its great exercise!
If i miss out on exercise for just 2 days in a row I feel gross and like i want to throw up.
I travel a lot for work and will not stay at a hotel that has no fitness room and pool.
If not in a rush i choose a restaurant a few miles away and walk to dinner.
I would jog farther, but then show up all sweaty, which is unpleasant at dinner time.
If you walk its easy to cover 3mph, so a restaurant even 2 miles away from you is only 40 mins, and then you feel refreshed walking back after dinner as well. I personally like being 36 and able to out work or out bike, run, hike or whatever most people half my age.
My office is on the 11th floor, and unless my arms are full, i generally see just how fast i can run up and down the stairs every time i enter or leave.
You do not need to run a marathon to get in shape, just little things that get your blood pumping a little bit.
if you run up 4 flights of stairs and feel like you may have a heart attack , you really need to get active.
My parents are 62 and 64 respectively, and they walk every day, sure they may only walk 2 miles, but they are still in great shape even now.

Cheers

PS. yes i know everyone knows these things already...but how often do we actually do them.
 

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I personallly stay away from artificial sweetners as I'm uncertain of the long term effects on my health so I just stick with regular sugar but try to keep it to a minimum.
 

Cinnamon Girl

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I lived by a no fat diet

& I was in exceptional shape - by no fat I mean banish ALL deep fried & ANY product with partially hydogenated oils, especially canola & cottonseed. Both are genetically modified....but what isn't lately...watch pesticide free products, can still be GM.
Another rule of thumb is if you can't pronounce it, you shouldn't be eating it. Preservatives & artificial flavours, baddd!!

Sneaky foods,,,,,,hmmm,,,,,see dcuplover & chingada's points. A few come to mind, McDonalds low fat menu, granola bars & crackers for the reason above.

It really is a balance.
 

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Hey Gina,

I really like the rule that if you can't pronounce it, don't eat it. Kinda like saying if it can't come out of your mouth, don't put it in. Weird food I mean, not sausages. ;-}

U No Hoo

P.S. I hope to meet you and your lovely companion in March in Vancouver. I'll not rest until I get ahold of you, sweetie. After my knee surgery, I need a massage - and more.
 

LonelyGhost

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Chingada said:
Not entirely true. Carbohydrate is stored in the body as glycogen. When you run out of glycogen the body begins to burn fat ..... then it starts eating muscle tissue.
nope, first sugars (carbs) then muscle (protein), then fat ... people who 'diet' but don't exercise will burn mainly muscles before they lose an ounce of fat.

the ONLY way to stop that is to use resistence training to keep muscle mass, cut down on carbs and eat protein and healthy fats.

and not all carbs are 'bad' either ... anything that contains 'fibre' will slow the release of the sugars in the carbs and won't contribute to weight gain.
 

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Massagegirl said:
So if the diet entails eating lots of protein, then the fat stores are burned after the glucose, correct?

Interesting, so low fat/low protein diets are completely ineffectual without excercise.
yup ... our body needs to use 'fat' to metabolize protein so if you eat lots of protein your body first burns up the glycogen and then starts burning fat ... this was how 'atkins' was supposed to work ... except when you limit carbs you go crazy and your uric acid goes sky high and the moment you eat a carb your body adds more FAT so that you can survive the next 'starvation'.

exercise is the #1 way to lose weight ... fat burns exactly ZERO calories ... but every pound of muscle needs calories just to 'stay alive' ... so once you gain more muscles, they actually burn calories even when you don't exercise!

so, limit calories: eat good protien, good fat, and complex carbs and lift weights ...
 

Cinnamon Girl

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LonelyGhost said:
so, limit calories: eat good protien, good fat, and complex carbs and lift weights ...
don't forget cardio for losing extra weight!

Hey kayaker - great to see you here! March you say, mm mm mm good! Send me finer details when you can :) I'm becoming a duo specialist!
we should be discussing the benefits of s*x, don't you think?

Gina
 

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zoe_zee said:
I like using sucralose (splenda) as a sweetener cuz it is actually made from sugar and has a similar chem structure... so I guess that means it's better for us....
not better: our 'body' doesn't recognize these 'sweeteners' as sugar (due to the molecular change made to them) so they treat them as a poison (no, they don't really poison you, but if its not a nutrient, its not something your body wants!) so rather than processing the 'artificial sugar' your body simply purges it undigested.

this is why many people get diarrhea from artificial sugars.

much better off making good choices: sugar in your coffee? then skip the muffin, danish, biscotti etc.

also, combine simple sugar with complex carbs, proteins and good fats ... there is less of a spike.

i like to make a snack plate of smoked salmon, cheese, apple, grapes (or other fruit). even toss in some cashews and walnuts ... takes less than five to prepare and lots of nutrients.

and yes, still putting sugar in my coffee (I use a measuring spoon now) and am still losing weight simply because i cut out ALL baked goods (no bread, cookies, crackers, chips etc.)
 
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