Abuser Using Review Writing As Threat For Control # 2720

myastarfire

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I have not been a member here for very long, but in the short time I have been a member, I have seen a few ladies report of men who use review writing as a threat against them. I also have my own story and some advice as to why its best not to fall for those threats.

I was amazed that someone who seemed so polite, and so professional could turn into such an abusive, discriminating, and controlling person. This first time client was by far one of the most charming businessmen who turned into one of the most terrible clients whom I have met. The experience was more psychologically devastating than anything. No matter how hard I tried to maintain my friendly persona, distract myself from the physical pain he caused, and continued to be the caring person who I am naturally, he found any possible way to insult me. He ridiculed and threatened me with negative and false review writing, but I was not about to let that get the better of me.


I hope that others are aware of these threats and that this type of experience might be something semi traumatizing to new or emotionally unstable woman. This is a tough profession and unfortunately in a world taught to scrutinize woman’s freedom of expressing the feminine form, freedom of liberated sexuality, the list goes on, prostitution is hindered, and beautiful, honest woman are victimized and abused.


Obviously this person who I have experience with knows what is going on, and takes part in discussions if he is praying on woman with not many reviews who might want a good reputation. And obviously he has used threats like these in the past with beginners, and they have helped him gain power and control, unless he is stopped he will look for more.
 

myastarfire

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My main advice is not to listen to anyone who threatens you with a negative review; getting rapped up in your reputation when your safety and well-being are at risk is not worth falling for abuse over. When you do your best, honest work the good reviews will happen; if others are happy to be seen with you, share how awesome you made them feel, and feel the need to express gratitude for your beauty, they will write nice things. If others feel the need to put you down in an insulting way in order to make themselves look better, or to spread nonsense, I would not take it so personally.

Keep a light outlook on most of what is said, and don't take it too personally. Everybody wants to be part of a crowd, have issues to discuss, and something that could be totally irrelevant about you might become a distorted topic of discussion. There could be a small flaw that is picked apart, talked about and then blown out of proportion in so many ways that it makes you ask if they are talking about you anymore. Even the ones who disagree with what others think will most likely speak within agreement of majority. It takes a lot of balls to stand away from the crowd and tell things the way they are instead of being persuaded to walk with the heard. What is emphasized might become so unlike you, and not realistic, but because of peer support and approval online, people will steer in favour of any disagreement or agreement that group majority regards important no matter its relevance. Some of the participants might start commenting negatively just to put you down in order to make themselves look better and those are pretty easy to distinguish.


When someone really watches what is being said, and threatens to add more information about you to the growing nonsense in order to manipulate you, it can be pretty demeaning. The worst thing would be for you to fall for it, do whatever he proposed, and either be asked for more tolerance of his abuse, or decline further abuse and still get bad reports from him
 

myastarfire

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If there are SP’s who don’t have many reviews, of course it’s nice to have them written to be recognized for good efforts, hard work, honesty, and to learn how to improve services. So telling an SP who does not have many reviews that a definite review will be created, could be used like a bait. Using writing a review as a means of manipulation for better treatment, no matter how badly the SP is treated, is the wrong move with those who don’t tolerate bullshit or abuse. Guys please don’t be one of them who treats anyone like this because you are only degrading yourself using a social structure with group dynamics that could easily turn against you. Ladies who are new, “Don’t let others mark your price tag down, keep your self worth behind the counter where the valuables are kept.” don’t risk your well being for these types of ploys, keep yourself sexy, and your service honest, and the reviews will come with your attitude and individuality.

There was a very handsome looking first time client who was a business man, and one of the first things he mentioned when he arrived, was that he promised to write a review about me.

I suspected that he had planned to use writing a review as a threat or excuse for special treatment all along..

He was polite at first, and we began our session after a not so nice discovery. This ties into a whole different story all together. My x employee left drug paraphernalia out. I was shocked when I saw it, and very embarrassed at the fact that she was using when I was letting her stay with me to help her get off of drugs, and supplying her with work. So I explained and was so embarrassed; he seemed cool about it as well as understanding. At that point I was more than humiliated!

When we got down to business, he patronized me about one of the reviews and wanted something that was described in a very low and off-putting mannerism, which was more or less felt as an insult. He was a bit aggressive when I was giving him oral, he pushed me with force and I gaged, and during intercourse, he was gentle and then hurt me with an unexpected rough move. I could not continue; he did not apologize and asked if I could continue despite the apparent pain he caused me. I could not, I was in pain, and was shocked that he asked me such a thing!

Despite the fact that I was hurt, I still rationalized the possibility that people make mistakes, and I offered to service him in another way since we still had time. I should have told him to leave after he wanted to have sex causing me pain and rudely expecting me to continue. I had to ask myself, “does this guy have a conscience?” I was naive and kind instead. He refused further service, made a very demeaning comment to me while getting ready to leave, and asked for some money back. Was his hurtful action, which injured me a good reason for a refund? I was not capable of working anymore that day as a result of him. I said no and he insulted me and used writing a horrible review about me as a threat. I told him that if it made him feel better about himself, or powerful, he could go right ahead.:clap2:
 

myastarfire

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I was amazed that someone who seemed so polite could turn into such an abusive, discriminating, and controlling person. He was by far one of the most terrible clients I have met. It was more psychologically devastating than anything, because no mater how hard I tried to maintain my friendly persona, distract myself from the pain he caused, and continued to be the caring person who I am naturally, he found any possible way to insult me. He ridiculed and threatened me with the review, but I was not about to let that get the better of me.

I am not writing this in search for sympathy, as I feel that this was just another incident to test my strength and learn.

This occurred before I became a member, it has taken me quite a bit of courage to bring this issue up. I feel it must be raised to warn the ladies as well as to discourage men from attempting to misuse this forum or threatening others with this sort of black-male.

Ladies please pm me for the entire phone number 604-***-2720 and description and I will get back to you asap.

Mya
 

Cappa

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Long post but worth the read.

Yikes! That man is a total two-faced scum. Sadly, I've seen plenty of people who take advantage of others and flip their masks as soon as things don't go their way.

You are not looking for sympathy, but my hearts goes out for you the same.
 

Caramel

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Sorry you went through that Mya! I always have suspicions with people who are a little too nice & charming...usually just ignore them. Those are the types who sometimes will use endearing words like "babe" or "hun" or whatever maybe...its a sign they have less than the usual intentions. (and anyone who asks for money back is ridiculous in my opinion, I usually just tell them it's too late now moneys gone pimp took it :p with me it happens if they want to change their appt from an hr to half...I mean, I cancelled other appointments so you could fit your 1 hour, no money back sorry)

sometimes I want them to go do it so I can see their username and stuff, but then I think these guys are probably like newbies or unknowns who hardly use the board and just lurk...so now my new tactic is getting here before they do and posting their phone numbers :cool:

Luckily I have never had anyone say that to my face or threaten me in person...my only bad "reviews" are non-reviews and comments of being a no-show, because I'm usually already in another appointment or sleeping by the time these guys show up and didn't bother confirming - and when people start getting pissy on texts I usually don't reply. Only 1 time it was my fault and my phone wasn't getting reception, so I decided to take that client anyway and he actually was a great regular for a while til he disappeared...where are you nipples? :confused:

Anyways...if reviews or non-reviews may be a trigger for anxiety or whatnot in your life, best thing to do is pay for advertising and become DNR (Do Not Review), or just don't ever read them - perberts only make less than 5% of the pooner population I suspect. Luckily this is the only website that has major reviews in our region where anyone will find anything, so probably best to invest. I've gotten over it now after all these years but I'd still have a heart attack if some psycho wrote lies about me for fun, because you can do that here...anyone can sign up and post anything.
 
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myastarfire

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Long post but worth the read.

Yikes! That man is a total two-faced scum. Sadly, I've seen plenty of people who take advantage of others and flip their masks as soon as things don't go their way.

You are not looking for sympathy, but my hearts goes out for you the same.
Thanks sweetie, yes this is quite long. I wanted to share my story as well as describe my point of view so others, especially newcomers, will hopefully gain from it.

You are right about the mask..but it falls off eventually and the truth is told.

And I do thank you for your kind words, Cappa. Though I don't search for sympathy nor approval it is nice to have support with others here.

You stay safe,

Mya
 

myastarfire

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Sorry you went through that Mya! I always have suspicions with people who are a little too nice & charming...usually just ignore them. Those are the types who sometimes will use endearing words like "babe" or "hun" or whatever maybe...its a sign they have less than the usual intentions. (and anyone who asks for money back is ridiculous in my opinion, I usually just tell them it's too late now moneys gone pimp took it :p with me it happens if they want to change their appt from an hr to half...I mean, I cancelled other appointments so you could fit your 1 hour, no money back sorry)

sometimes I want them to go do it so I can see their username and stuff, but then I think these guys are probably like newbies or unknowns who hardly use the board and just lurk...so now my new tactic is getting here before they do and posting their phone numbers :cool:

Luckily I have never had anyone say that to my face or threaten me in person...my only bad "reviews" are non-reviews and comments of being a no-show, because I'm usually already in another appointment or sleeping by the time these guys show up and didn't bother confirming - and when people start getting pissy on texts I usually don't reply. Only 1 time it was my fault and my phone wasn't getting reception, so I decided to take that client anyway and he actually was a great regular for a while til he disappeared...where are you nipples? :confused:

Anyways...if reviews or non-reviews may be a trigger for anxiety or whatnot in your life, best thing to do is pay for advertising and become DNR (Do Not Review), or just don't ever read them - perberts only make less than 5% of the pooner population I suspect. Luckily this is the only website that has major reviews in our region where anyone will find anything, so probably best to invest. I've gotten over it now after all these years but I'd still have a heart attack if some psycho wrote lies about me for fun, because you can do that here...anyone can sign up and post anything.
Thank you for your input Caramel, you make some really great points and thanks for your kind words as well.

I just have time for a quick reply right now.

Stay safe, babes,

Mya
 

VancityDivas

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S perberts only make less than 5% of the pooner population I suspect. Luckily this is the only website that has major reviews in our region where anyone will find anything, so probably best to invest. I've gotten over it now after all these years but I'd still have a heart attack if some psycho wrote lies about me for fun, because you can do that here...anyone can sign up and post anything.

Very interesting. 5% ?
I wonder if this is the case of 5% customers who make up about 60-80% of total sales!
 

Caramel

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Very interesting. 5% ?
I wonder if this is the case of 5% customers who make up about 60-80% of total sales!
I am just speculating and guessing...but not sure. All I know is that most clients I've met, I'd say about 90% of them have never heard of this site and don't have time for this creativity...I also get a lot of inquiries if my pics are real etc, so thats more proof that a lot of active pooners have no clue how to do any research and just take risks.
 

VancityDivas

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Well I guess sometimes risks payoff :)

I must say though many callers do lack decorum and at least the experienced people of this site would take the reviews with a grain of salt. After all, no one can please everyone !
 

myastarfire

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Well I guess sometimes risks payoff :)

I must say though many callers do lack decorum and at least the experienced people of this site would take the reviews with a grain of salt. After all, no one can please everyone !
Some people really care what others think and might search for publicity or approval while the few nonconformists who are unconditioned to think every ideal is based on societies norms, regulations, and social structure settings (made up nonsense people follow because they cannot think for them selves or they just agree and follow the crowd mentality because agreeing with everyone else is a lot easier then being the black sheep) would most likely take review writing as a grain of salt.

If you check out my blog, there is an article and it seems many who have been raised in sheltered lives around the Greater Vancouver area might actually judge the taste of food based on the ambiance of a restaurant lol. :nod: I didn't know this and learned from a client who showed up at my residence petrified at the building. He explained. Now I understand. I just can't believe the narrow outlook and how a stereo type so ingrained in mentality affected a 50 year old to the point that he looked as though he was in a war zone. I am glad to be well traveled, open minded, and highly adaptable. I done care so much what people think and go against the grain of conformity; but I do like to read reviews; its nice to see what others say; keep up the positive and see if the negative is criticism worth constructing.
 

morementum

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I am just speculating and guessing...but not sure. All I know is that most clients I've met, I'd say about 90% of them have never heard of this site and don't have time for this creativity...I also get a lot of inquiries if my pics are real etc, so thats more proof that a lot of active pooners have no clue how to do any research and just take risks.
You are being lied to. In this day of the internet, to think someone would NOT search on some simple terms and NOT end up at this site prior to heading down the path of this choice is pretty naïve.

Also don't get what the big deal is about the fake negative review - no different than the myriad of fake positive reviews. Fake reviews are found out very quickly and exposed and if you get a fake negative, the bounce in support business will far outweigh the review by the dipshit. Same with fake positive reviews, I really doubt they have done more than perhaps garner one or two other visits but have essentially killed some "careers" before they have even started including of some "agencies".

Much ado about nothing.
 

Caramel

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You are being lied to. In this day of the internet, to think someone would NOT search on some simple terms and NOT end up at this site prior to heading down the path of this choice is pretty naïve.

Also don't get what the big deal is about the fake negative review - no different than the myriad of fake positive reviews. Fake reviews are found out very quickly and exposed and if you get a fake negative, the bounce in support business will far outweigh the review by the dipshit. Same with fake positive reviews, I really doubt they have done more than perhaps garner one or two other visits but have essentially killed some "careers" before they have even started including of some "agencies".

Much ado about nothing.
I doubt it...this is the oldest profession and guys constantly get baited by fake pics, half ads posted online have fake pics and they're still drumming up business. Guys probably never even heard of reverse image search. Pooning has gotten more popular due to social media and the glamorization of escorting, and the popularity of indoor and outcall workers as opposed to street walkers - so it reaches a wider audience of very average people. You wouldn't have any idea because you're not an escort, you're just 1 pooner and maybe you don't even have any peers or friends to share info with, just a lone pooner drawing your own conclusions. Everybody is different, some people can't read English well, some cannot navigate forums...most just use their phones to search or do it quickly in private so they don't really have that much time on their hands...a lot of them are busy working to earn money to pay for their sexcapades.
 

apl16

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Look left. Way left.
I have not been a member here for very long, but in the short time I have been a member, I have seen a few ladies report of men who use review writing as a threat against them. I also have my own story and some advice as to why its best not to fall for those threats.

I was amazed that someone who seemed so polite, and so professional could turn into such an abusive, discriminating, and controlling person. This first time client was by far one of the most charming businessmen who turned into one of the most terrible clients whom I have met. The experience was more psychologically devastating than anything. No matter how hard I tried to maintain my friendly persona, distract myself from the physical pain he caused, and continued to be the caring person who I am naturally, he found any possible way to insult me. He ridiculed and threatened me with negative and false review writing, but I was not about to let that get the better of me.


I hope that others are aware of these threats and that this type of experience might be something semi traumatizing to new or emotionally unstable woman. This is a tough profession and unfortunately in a world taught to scrutinize woman’s freedom of expressing the feminine form, freedom of liberated sexuality, the list goes on, prostitution is hindered, and beautiful, honest woman are victimized and abused.


Obviously this person who I have experience with knows what is going on, and takes part in discussions if he is praying on woman with not many reviews who might want a good reputation. And obviously he has used threats like these in the past with beginners, and they have helped him gain power and control, unless he is stopped he will look for more.
It is horrible that you were physically abused and worse that you were mentally abused. Sadly, there are a lot of assholes out there.

I will trust an ordinary looking guy that looks like like he earns a living than some overdressed, schmoozing, suit that makes his living kissing people's ass with charm and deceit. The lawyers and politicians will always make me more nervous than any street person.

I hope you can get past this, maybe with some counselling or the support with others on this site. From reading some of your replies in the reviews section you seem like a very good person.
Take care of yourself and best of luck in this tough business. I hope you have a few good friends for support and some warm hugs. A simple hug can do wonders. ((((Mya))))
 

VancityDivas

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Some people really care what others think and might search for publicity or approval while the few nonconformists who are unconditioned to think every ideal is based on societies norms, regulations, and social structure settings (made up nonsense people follow because they cannot think for them selves or they just agree and follow the crowd mentality because agreeing with everyone else is a lot easier then being the black sheep) would most likely take review writing as a grain of salt.

If you check out my blog, there is an article and it seems many who have been raised in sheltered lives around the Greater Vancouver area might actually judge the taste of food based on the ambiance of a restaurant lol. :nod: I didn't know this and learned from a client who showed up at my residence petrified at the building. He explained. Now I understand. I just can't believe the narrow outlook and how a stereo type so ingrained in mentality affected a 50 year old to the point that he looked as though he was in a war zone. I am glad to be well traveled, open minded, and highly adaptable. I done care so much what people think and go against the grain of conformity; but I do like to read reviews; its nice to see what others say; keep up the positive and see if the negative is criticism worth constructing.
Wow!
I must say, I am very impressed by you :)
 

morementum

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I doubt it...this is the oldest profession and guys constantly get baited by fake pics, half ads posted online have fake pics and they're still drumming up business. Guys probably never even heard of reverse image search. Pooning has gotten more popular due to social media and the glamorization of escorting, and the popularity of indoor and outcall workers as opposed to street walkers - so it reaches a wider audience of very average people. You wouldn't have any idea because you're not an escort, you're just 1 pooner and maybe you don't even have any peers or friends to share info with, just a lone pooner drawing your own conclusions. Everybody is different, some people can't read English well, some cannot navigate forums...most just use their phones to search or do it quickly in private so they don't really have that much time on their hands...a lot of them are busy working to earn money to pay for their sexcapades.
Disagree with you on almost every point. Oh well, that is what makes life interesting.

Most people I know research the shit out of anything they spend money on - why would this be any different. Considering (if you believe "them") that more than 70% of all internet traffic is related to either porn or some form of sex-based issue, find it extremely naïve to think that people don't know about review boards etc.
 

myastarfire

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Disagree with you on almost every point. Oh well, that is what makes life interesting.

Most people I know research the shit out of anything they spend money on - why would this be any different. Considering (if you believe "them") that more than 70% of all internet traffic is related to either porn or some form of sex-based issue, find it extremely naïve to think that people don't know about review boards etc.
I have heard about police setting up profiles on Leo's List...And yes, pictures are pretty, the seeker WANTS that...but if they don't think with the correct head...umm....Sadly scammers prey on people who do not do research. Not searching for reviews could lead to not just a terrible experience but also a fake...I worked so seldom in the past that there were only a few reviews, but enough to state that I was real...

A good tip for dudes who want the chick in the pic who has no reviews are to search her #, to see if there are more than one girl using the number, and call her up; make a cancelation agreement before a meeting. A real SP who uses accurate pics will say yes to an hour long booking, but if she is not the woman in the pics, then she would most likely not book if an agreement for a cancelation with or without payment was agreed on before hand.
 

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Disagree with you on almost every point. Oh well, that is what makes life interesting.

Most people I know research the shit out of anything they spend money on - why would this be any different. Considering (if you believe "them") that more than 70% of all internet traffic is related to either porn or some form of sex-based issue, find it extremely naïve to think that people don't know about review boards etc.
I've been on a few review boards and I believe that a large number of SP clients don't know about these boards on their first visit. Most people you know might research the shit out of anything they spend money on, but that's a small percentage of everyone else and those people are often idiots who act first and think later.

To understand just how naive and dumb the people who actually do find review boards can be, you only have to look at the kinds of questions the average board newb asks:

"Check out this ad, she's so hot - any Intel?" - Google image search clearly reveals stolen pics, too dumb to know how to right click and "search this image"

"Can someone tell me who to see?" No info on what they like, no attempt to read a few reviews

"Is this SP any good?" Too dumb or lazy to use the search function

It seems to me that you associate with mostly smart people and assume most of the world is operating at your level. Lucky you... I sadly know lots of morons who would never think to do research before paying a lot of money for something. ;-)
 

myastarfire

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Thanks the the insight Mya.

It took courage to raise this, especially with a broad user community of potential clients.

I think you've made a very important contribution that adds value to this community forum. The Review Board only has value if the reviews are believable. The more we can all do to challenge shills, call out fake positive reviews, and - in your case - raise the matter of potential negative reviews being driven by manipulative or abusive clients, the better off we all are for it.


It's raised my opinion of you, to be honest. I had been attracted by your ads (and your amazingly hot video - yow) but had held back because I'd seen some mixed reviews (and I'm 51% more partial to natural than man made -but yours do look lovely regardless) . I'll now take those reviews with a grain of salt and re-consider. Can't promise I'll reach out, but I'll think about it.

Thanks again for having the courage to raise this. Abuse of any form shouldn't be tolerated. I hope you pursue it with our forum moderators, in whatever capacity you feel comfortable doing so.

They should be the ones cracking down. Not you. If this forum can't be trusted, it has no value.

Thanks for adding value to the forum.
Thanks for your kind words, your criticism, and speaking your own truth. You are thoughtful, supportive, greatly written, and have given me thought provoking feedback.

My goal was simply to raise awarness and let others seek out their own truth. Not all will agree with every premise of advice, but with that being said, an opposing view is mandatory in any subject; there is a polar opposite to everything. But hopefully most can take some information off the shelf and leave the rest.

If this distorts my reputation for an amount of time, I actually don't have a problem with it. I really just wanted to raise awareness.

In some ways I really feel that I'm only just beginning, and will work my way up the ladder. Out with the old and in with the new. There are many reasons why I have mixed reviews. It all has to do with presentation, stereo types, environment, availability and the list goes on.

I am sure if I had been dedicated just to this profession, took more photos, and created a website with glamour years ago, as well as worked out of an upscale condo, then I would have many very great reviews. Many of the well reviewed ladies have the looks and dedication that I have, but their online presentations combined with a classier place, creates the ultimate wow factor that looks great and demands support from the media provoking curiosity they have drawn through image. On the contrary I have learned that I have made mistakes, and I do hold responsibility for them. And if it were not for some of the negative reviews, I would not know what to aim to improve.

For one, I do not put up with any kind of abuse, and with a man this manipulative, intelligent and abusive as well as strategic, I had to speak of it to warn others and to stop him. If it burdens my rep..so be it. I gave a student lecture on psychopathy and he seemed to have all of the characteristics. Smart, very dark skin, very handsome and presentable he was at that...but he lacked conscience. Sorry, but I won by not being victimized as he planned he could, and he was reported to the police!
 
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