girls what would you do if clients did not pay you?

johnsmit

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When a client that you have know for a long time . Does not pay you for a mualty hr apointment
What recorce dones an escort have..

Should she take him to small claims court .. after all prostitution is legal..or in all honesty
He was just paying for her time .. which he failed to pay the agreed money.

It not uncommon. .many girl will accept payment after when it's a long time client
I did it that way with a few girls I saw.

But i have also heard a out long term clients that short change the girls .or just font pay them after.

What do you all think could be done to get payment with out breaking the law.
 

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I ALWAYS pay up front, new or repeat visit. ----- and I ask them to count it while I turn around and slowly remove my shoes. That always puts their mind at ease and they can concentrate on the upcoming job at hand.---- and I always pay with the largest denomination available. ---- 2 hundreds and a fifty, 3 hundreds, or sometimes I even splurge and go for the 4 hundreds.
That's easy and quick to count. ------ and I always make sure I have some of those large bills in my 'pooning stash', --- which is not being depleted right now because I am out of action for about 5 weeks.
I've heard some funny stories from ladies about how some guys pay. --- A sealed envelope about 1/2 inch thick, with a bunch of small denominations all mixed up, wrapped in a sheet of paper with an elastic around it.----like they were going to send Fed Ex half way around the world.
Or the guy that has a wad of mixed up, folded bills in his pocket, and flops down a handful on the table. Now she starts to count it. ---- 5, 15, 35, 40, 45, 55, 75, 80, 85, 105, 125, 135, 145, ---- oh sh*t, she lost count, start all over --- I'm sure some of you ladies can relate to this.

So, pay up front, in large bills --- and enjoy.
 

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This reminded me of **.* with his tales of paying with rolls of coins years ago.
Well, Sarah, that was years ago.

Since then, my standings have improved....... I lost about 120 pounds, (she ran off with some construction guy), and I hear she's now up to about 185 pounds.

I made some great advances throughout the year, and now I always have a bunch of 100s for my second most favorite hobby - pooning.
 

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I'll bet your penis got longer when you lost all that weight!
Well, I don't know about my penis getting longer,---- but my 'love making' time certainly got longer.

He*l, since she left, I remember a couple of times where I lasted well over 3 minutes, ---- just about 4 minutes.

While with the Ex., after a minute and a half or sometimes up to two minutes, she'd always come up with something like : " O.K., that's it, I have to take the laundry out of the dryer, or, O.K., that's enough 'cause I feel very uncomfortable with my thong snapping back and forth with each stroke. - and on, and on and on.
 
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johnsmit

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So even though prostitution is legal in Canada . And the girls are licensed .. you don't think it is a good idea to take a client to court .. purely on business principals.
A few different sinario could happen .. One is he will pay be for it get to court because he does not want it on record that he sees escorts..

Two he might be a couple at ass hole.. and try to tell the court "she's my girl friend"
And then have their whole history read in court..

Yes it would out the girl as well as the client.. and it also would set some type of presidend on where the law stands on an escorts . Charging for time... or sex..
Or if they agree with this latest law that make women the victim. .and clients the predator. Pervert...rapist. .
 
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Ms Erica Phoenix

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When a client that you have know for a long time ..
I must have missed this part in my first fast read and my hurry to be witty! I avoid this by establishing routines early. Of course, I also have the added benefit of a large premises. When I meet someone for the first time at my front door, I introduce myself with a smile, a warm hug, a big kiss, etc. Then, I make a gracious gesture to the alcove with the big yellow bowl guarded by Kermit and Teddy and ask the gentleman to feed the bear. Once the donation is in the bowl, we go upstairs. I don't touch it, or pick it up, or count it. I ask the gentleman to follow me upstairs. Then in a few minutes, I will excuse myself discreetly and go downstairs and count quickly, then put the cash away. I have only twice had problems.

ONCE, a gentleman offered to trade me something green, fragrant and herbal...as a favour I reluctantly agreed to do. What turned up was far inferior: neither green nor fragrant, and I was ticked. Haven't seen him since.

Another gentleman who was so amped up about the whole process that he could not wait in his car for the directions to the front door!! He walked up to my TENANT at her downstairs suite: her pitbull was happier to see him than the rest of us! I really wasn't thrilled when she told me his first words to her were "Oh! Erica? I thought you were a redhead!" SIGH...When he finally made it into the house, I got the routine back on track...and came up $100 short on the count! I marched right upstairs and showed him his donation of 5 $20 bills...he ponied up quick. Thankfully, I have never had anything go wrong or badly...And anyone who has made it past the front door and the dog once, I'm not worried about them ripping me off. It's that one rare dickhead that my ASSHOLE DETECTION SYSTEM didn't pick up before he got to the door the first time that will find himself on the wrong side of a bad situation.
 

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Well E G you have touch on the one aspect t oc this business that keep comeing up

Escorts right. .What are they.. The courts said your entitled to a safe work place....your allso entitled to police from eating. . And are alower recorce under the laws of Canada ..

Bit .most of you live in fear.. Fear of being outed .. Fear of retribution from clients.. Fear of the LE .
Why .? If that thd case you should not be doing this job.
The push in thd last 5. Yrs and more was to stand up for your rights .to say this is who I am and not be ashamed or margilized by the law of society.

And lest of all to be afraid ..This is why people like Pickton .managed to kill 30 or more women
Courts agreed that sex workers have rights..
The government ...or pasificly the Conservative party does nog think you have rights equal to what to what your citizenship entitled you to.

IS THIS WHERE YOU ALL WANT THIS TO GO.?
Being a fraud. . Being bullied.. being ripped off ..and having no recorce .
As long we allow the special interest groups influence the laws of our. Country .
There will be more prostitute killed .. beaten..threatened .and abused by not just John,
Boyfriends .and perverts.. but also the authorities that should be helping and protecting them

These new laws will allow all of this to come back in full force. With all the women once again living in fear..
If it takes sueing a client for payments.. and maybe bring some sanity back to who has what right in this country. ..then it should be done.. it very simple to stop the suite
Just pay the money he owes
 

Ms Erica Phoenix

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Bit .most of you live in fear.. Fear of being outed .. Fear of retribution from clients.. Fear of the LE
I don't live in fear, I don't think. I am not afraid or ashamed of what I do. The three most important people in my real life all know how the bills get paid, including my mother and my partner of 18 years. The clients I choose to see have their own reasons to be discreet and appreciate the same, and anyone who doesn't appreciate it, doesn't get invited back! I'm not even afraid of LE since all of the fall out with the girl I took in this past July. After she was escorted off my property by two uniformed RCMP officers, screaming, she accused me of turning her out and taking all her money. A week later, an officer came by, did a 30 second walk through to ensure there were no minors on the premises. He didn't even wake me up from my nap to talk to me. LE was not concerned in the least about my working, or her working for that matter! It was a huge relief.

HOWEVER, that doesn't mean my neighbours are all going to approve of what I do, and therefore, I need to be discreet. If I have to leave my neighbourhood because someone can't follow simple instructions for his own good, I will be most displeased!
 

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Ms Erica, you did say that you were in a hurry to say something witty, well, you certainly said something that made me laugh.

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"Then in a few minutes, I will excuse myself discreetly and go downstairs and count quickly, then put the cash away. I have only twice had problems."

I could understand that comment or action if you were a blonde --(I hear they are not the brightest, LOL) --but that coming from a redhead surprises me.

Surely you are smarter than to think that your clients are so stupid that they don't know why you're going downstairs so discreetly, while they are standing upstairs half naked, or maybe already completely naked, --- wondering how long it will take you to count the money and then hide it. --- and maybe fill up the dogs dish while you're down there, or a quick text -- who knows, before you come back upstairs.

Just for me personally - that would not be a 'session enhancer'. Why not have the client pay you as you enter the bedroom upstairs, and then quickly excuse yourself and count it in the next room (Living room, kitchen, bathroom), who cares, but at least your staying on the same floor.

Regardless, Ms Erica, it must be a good exercise for you, doing that 5 or 6 times a day.

Keep smiling.:D
 

Ms Erica Phoenix

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Ms Erica, you did say that you were in a hurry to say something witty, well, you certainly said something that made me laugh.

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"Then in a few minutes, I will excuse myself discreetly and go downstairs and count quickly, then put the cash away. I have only twice had problems."

I could understand that comment or action if you were a blonde --(I hear they are not the brightest, LOL) --but that coming from a redhead surprises me.

Surely you are smarter than to think that your clients are so stupid that they don't know why you're going downstairs so discreetly, while they are standing upstairs half naked, or maybe already completely naked, --- wondering how long it will take you to count the money and then hide it. --- and maybe fill up the dogs dish while you're down there, or a quick text -- who knows, before you come back upstairs.

Just for me personally - that would not be a 'session enhancer'. Why not have the client pay you as you enter the bedroom upstairs, and then quickly excuse yourself and count it in the next room (Living room, kitchen, bathroom), who cares, but at least your staying on the same floor.

Regardless, Ms Erica, it must be a good exercise for you, doing that 5 or 6 times a day.

Keep smiling.:D
Truth be told, I am a brunette (with a redhead's personality) :grin:

I don't do it every session. Often I don't leave the room, and I don't need to do it with repeat clients. Truth be told, I only need to excuse myself if the gentleman isn't showering. I usually put my phone on the charger first. I never make the mistake of thinking my clients are dumb, and I don't let them make the mistake of thinking I'm dumb.

(And, yes, Fullhouse no doubt but all that stair climbing makes me strong and flexible...)


See?
 
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My first thought on this was for the lady to drag that pricks ass to court and hopefully destroy his personal life. But then I thought a bit about it and came to the conclusion that publicly exposing someone could be exactly what the conservative government wants. "See, See, that's why this new law is so important, cases just like this justifies our decisions". I know that money makes the world go round, and even the most thorough of client screening may be in place, I guess it's part of the risks of being an SP. I guess my suggestion would be is to have a Louisville Slugger close at hand and swing for the cheap seats! I bet the douchebag won't charge you, as he wouldn't want to expose himself.
 

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Truth be told, I am a brunette (with a redhead's personality) :grin:
Ms Erica, I am so sorry that I screwed up with your hair colour. I have never met you, so I only went with what I read in your 'signature'

"Sexy Curvy Redhead Cougar"

Just goes to prove again, ---- you can't believe everything you read on here.:D

Keep smiling
 

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Considering thd words of the new bill

I can see quite a few times where thd girls will not be getting payed
Most likely the clients or the girl will be leaving.

I can see a sinario like this.

Girl opens door client comes in..
Right way ask. "What am I getting for 200 $...?
Girl say." Your paying for my time."

Client." Does the include having sex"

Girl " yes if thats what you want."

Client. " isn't if illegal for me to pay for sex..?
Girl. "Your paying for my time.. ahhh maybe will have sex.my chose"
Client. " so I might not get sex. I don't want to just pay you for spending time with me"
Girl " of course you will get SeX but it free .. your just paying for my time"

Client. "The sex is free. So why am I paying any thing .. I just want sex. But i cant pay you for it.because it illegal to do that..

GIRL" Well then get the fuck out of here! $/:;&@*£€;:'
 

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It's only happened twice with the same client, a year apart, and I thought he learned his lesson after the first time. I would most definitely have security pay him a visit, either at work or home, in the particular case, he was a real slime ball about it, although he was a regular for 3 years, so after the first "mistake" he said he lost his wallet, and must be in his dad's car… then he paid what he owed a month later and all was forgiven… the second time was over a year later, he gave me a gift which he always brings with a donation inside… This time there was no donation… so now, he's no longer able to see me, I refuse to answer his messages etc… I will not acknowledge him when I see him and security will not have to bother with his stupidity. Lesson learned! I usually do not have to ask for a donation and 99.9% of men are very respectful and generous! I would use security only in extreme cases, & only if my life depended on it...
 

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Gee, johnsmit, I hope your little head responds to medication better than your big head appears to do.

Where do you come up with this stuff that was left out of the thick volume of "Pooning 101" ---- for very obvious reasons.

Who 'de f*ck goes to see a lady that is a SP --- finds out the rate, finds out where she lives, obviously has her phone # or e-mail, learns her ethnic background, her hair colour,
her height and approx. weight, a hint of her age and some body measurements like 36DD, 24, 35, but doesn't know if there is sex involved in exchange for a hefty sum of money.

Your 'sinario' is out of this world.:

Girl opens door client comes in..
Right way ask. "What am I getting for 200 $...?
Girl say." Your paying for my time."

Client." Does the include having sex"

Girl " yes if thats what you want."

Client: "No, not really... I came here because I heard that you are very good with your hands, so I want to watch you knitting a pecker warmer for me, because winter is just around the corner.
I brought 3 different coloured balls of wool, 'cause I want it to be multi coloured, so I don't mix it up with the white flour sack I used last year.

I also brought a bottle of home made wine - vintage, first week of Oct. this year - and some chicken feet we can snack on while you're knitting that pecker warmer.
Do you think I should boil of fry those feet, they look awful pale. ???

By the way, I'll leave my fly open, so you can pull out my pecker as often as you need to, so that we're going to wind up with the right sized warmer for my pecker.

And also, please wake me for breakfast, 'cause I'm sure it's going to take you all night to knit that little sucker.

So, do we have a deal for $200 ??????"

Girl: "Throw in $20 for a tip, and you got a deal. --- Do you want bacon or sausage with your eggs for breakfast ????????"
 

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at the risk of repeating myself...

post c-36 any given pay-for-play date is only going to go one of two ways:

- business as usual with no tricks or semantic games and you walk out a few bills shorter with a big smile on your face, or

- business as usual with no tricks or semantic games; until the door crashes open and the rcmp walk in and put the cuffs on you because they were able to pressure the escort into participating in a sting on you

and NEVER doubt that they can find an escort who can be pressured into running a sting on you - being an escort won't be illegal, but possession of pot or pills or powder still will be. not paying full taxes still will be. if she has kids, or a close family that doesn't know what she does for a living, she will play along with them to avoid losing those children or being outed

police mostly don't have the time to waste with bullshit like this, but when mackay needs some positive press and threatens behind closed doors to seriously cut funding for the top brass, the word WILL come down - get us some prostitution busts... FAST!!
 

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I can not disagree with anything you said, Mr. Cowboy.-- I'm also not a "legal beagle", I once lost a parking ticket dispute, even though I was cruising down Interstate 5 in California between Shasta and San Francisco on the day the ticket was issued.

So yes, probably some poor sucker is going to get caught (He*l, it might even be me), is going to get arrested and next day he'll be in court for a bail hearing.

Bail probably won't be very high, and he'll be back to normal life.

Now the fast wheels of the B.C. justice system start to turn. There will be evidence gathering, witnesses, statements and God knows what all that will be presented to the crown, to decide if there is enough evidence to charge the suspect.

After weeks of procrastination, the crown finally decides that there is enough evidence to lay charges. So now, instead of giving the accused a definite date to appear, it's sort of like :"We'll call you when we are ready"

And that, as we all know, could be years ---- does anybody remember the Stanley Cup Riots, (June 15. 2011) where there were dozens of videos, cell phone recordings and actual T.V. cameras. ...yet it was only a couple of months ago where the last few rioters met their Waterloo, with such harsh punishment as a few hours of community service or a couple of months of probation.. How about the guy that killed over 100 sled dogs up at Whistler. Took 3 years to bring him to trial.

And who can forget those scumbags that killed those 6 people (2 of them innocent bystanders) in Surrey in Oct. 2007 - -- 7 years ago, and 2 of them just were found guilty last week. Two of those creeps are still in jail, awaiting trial.

So if you get nailed by the cops after C-36 becomes law, you may not even remember what sex feels like, never mind trying to participate in it, by the time you stand in front of a judge.
 
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I am very surprised that there are any service providers who don't handle the money transaction before a session. Not doing so is just inviting the client to take advantage of them and offer up some ridiculous excuse to not pay at the end of the booking. While every man won't be mean enough to not pay (or pay less than agreed on), there are enough of them out there that will. Why would any reasonable lady (or man) be silly enough to hand them such an opportunity on a silver platter?
 
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