Ray and Janay Rice

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If two people deserved each other, it would be these two.


As they say, money always talks.
 

PuntMeister

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Agreed, they must have great sex. A gentle left hook on a drunken banshee should lead to great sex, no?

Love how he turned her around so her feet were no longer blocking the elevator door, but unfortunately her head was! Could have been a Popeils slice-em-dice-em moment except for the alert hotel attendant recognizing the facial perils and potential lawsuits forthcoming, and had the good sense to stand in the elevator sensor zone until cooler heads prevailed.

Can't believe I took the time to watch that. Gutter moment. Not proud.

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Although it looks like he didn't hit her hard, it was a left hook right to 'the button', and a 218 pound man is going to drop pretty much anyone he tags right there. Also...there was one of those big metal rails all along the back of the elevator, and they both say that it was her hitting her head AFTER the initial hit that caused her to lose consciousness...
 

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Now she's defending her man, I mean meal ticket. Yep, he can beat the shit out of me anytime, as long as I get a makeup diamond whatever the next day. Another case of greed and too much money coupled with no brains!!
 

manni

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wouldn't she get half his worth if she divorce him?
but then again, Rice would probably threaten to dispose of her
if it came to that.

regardless whether it's a light tap or not, domestic violence is uncalled for.
 

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wouldn't she get half his worth if she divorce him?
but then again, Rice would probably threaten to dispose of her
if it came to that.

regardless whether it's a light tap or not, domestic violence is uncalled for.
There's probably a prenup where she gets sweet fuck all. If she got half of his worth, don't cha think she would have pulled the pin on him already instead of standing beside him?
 

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Guys is a piece of shit but she is no better. For some reason, she is not getting any grief for hitting him. Physical violence is physical violence. While he is certainly stronger (as almost all men are than all women - at least real men and real women), EITHER hitting each other is out of line and should be stopped.
 

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the only hit i see her perform is a back handed slap on his chest at the beginning.

Next, I see an initial strike... maybe a slap, by him, as she leans against the wall of the elevator (her face and body react).

She then comes at him, likely furious, when he clocks her... she's clearly KO'd prior to hitting the metal bar.

Now, unless the girl is a weight lifting champ, or a professional boxer, or some other high level martial artist... she's probably not enough of a threat to a strong and capable man to justify punching her lights out.
 

manni

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There's probably a prenup where she gets sweet fuck all. If she got half of his worth, don't cha think she would have pulled the pin on him already instead of standing beside him?
good point, Slapshot1.

unfortunate situation she's in,
I guess she's addicted to the material goods no matter what the cost.
 

manni

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Doesn't matter whether the spouse has money and assets, many women and men for that matter have long had difficulties leaving a relationship where domestic violence is involved.
and I feel for those people for not having the courage or strength to leave such relationships.
physical or verbal abuse is unacceptable.
 

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wouldn't she get half his worth if she divorce him?
but then again, Rice would probably threaten to dispose of her
if it came to that.

regardless whether it's a light tap or not, domestic violence is uncalled for.

Not necessarily would she be entitled to half.

Think back a couple of years ago when Scott Zuckerberg married Priscilla Chan. Many on here were calling her a gold-digger. Nobody considered the laws of the state of California. In this case, if there was to be a divorce, the laws of Maryland, or wherever they reside would prevail.
 

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There's probably a prenup where she gets sweet fuck all. If she got half of his worth, don't cha think she would have pulled the pin on him already instead of standing beside him?
It's normal to weigh in on this matter...though everyone including those directly involved acknowledge that his actions were deplorable. Whether or not his behavior is forgivable is a different conversation and evidently the victim of this crime is the only forgiveness that matters to Ray.

Their relationship is their business. You don't know anything about them...including that they were not married at the time of the assault. They were married a month or so after the assault.

IMO the NFL commissioner should resign. He acknowledges seeing video that showed her unconscious ouside of the elevator but that he never actually saw the video detailing what happened inside the elevator when he originally only handed down a 2 game suspension to Rice. Whether or not that is true may eventually come to light but regardless...how the hell did he think she became unconscious? He knew there was an incident of violence and that resulted in her being unconscious. Even without video evidence, Rice should have been dealt with more severely (which the commissioner acknowledges) but that acknowledgement only occurred after the court of public opinion weighed in.
 
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Slapshot1

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It's normal to weigh in on this matter...though everyone including those directly involved acknowledge that his actions were deplorable. Whether or not his behavior is forgivable is a different conversation and evidently the victim of this crime is the only forgiveness that matters to Ray.

Their relationship is their business. You don't know anything about them...including that they were not married at the time of the assault. They were married a month or so after the assault.

IMO the NFL commissioner should resign. He acknowledges seeing video that showed her unconscious ouside of the elevator but that he never actually saw the video detailing what happened inside the elevator when he originally only handed down a 2 game suspension to Rice. Whether or not that is true may eventually come to light but regardless...how the hell did he think she became unconscious? He knew there was an incident of violence and that resulted in her being unconscious. Even without video evidence, Rice should have been dealt with more severely (which the commissioner acknowledges) but that acknowledgement only occurred after the court of public opinion weighed in.
It does seem strange that the second half of the video wasn't released until Monday?? Somebody was in the know from day one. Just seems weird.
I was appalled by this act and for one do not condone this type of behavior. Where I am, I see the results of domestic violence far more than I would like. There's no place for it anywhere.
 

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There's probably a prenup where she gets sweet fuck all. If she got half of his worth, don't cha think she would have pulled the pin on him already instead of standing beside him?
I doubt any prenup would count if she could prove spousal abuse
 

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There's kind of more to the story..



What the Ray Rice Video Really Shows


On Monday, a video of Ray Rice, the Ravens running back, punching his then fiancée in the head and leaving her slumped on the floor of an elevator, was released on TMZ. It was greeted with shock. By the early afternoon, the Ravens tweeted that they were terminating Rice’s contract. That is an appropriate response, except for one thing: we’ve known for months that Rice had hit Janay Palmer and left her unconscious; there had been a video already, of him dragging her inert body out of the elevator in a hotel in Atlantic City. And yet, somehow, the video from inside the elevator was not what some purportedly well-informed observers expected. The N.F.L. had investigated the incident, after all, and only suspended Rice for two games; that didn’t fit with the pictures on the screen. But what did people think it looked like when a football player knocked out a much smaller woman? Like a fair fight?

They thought, apparently, that it was complicated; that a running back who evades the tackles of the Steelers’ defense had no option but to resort to force to defend himself when Palmer attacked him; that what he did was somehow her fault, or at least an understandable reaction to some unspecified, but presumably outrageous, female behavior. Stephen A. Smith, of ESPN, in a segment on the case, talked about how he advised women in his family not to “provoke wrong actions.” (He apologized, and was suspended for a week, a span that served to underscore how brief Rice’s suspension was.) There was speculation about a freak accident, of the sort that emergency-room nurses still hear when women show up with a boyfriend or husband and a lot of bruises. Also, he married her—didn’t that change things? Only, perhaps, her level of vulnerability; that will be especially true now. Back in May, the Ravens staged a press conference with Janay and Ray Rice, newlyweds at the time, the point of which was to deliver her absolution to the fans. One can’t say that she had made a bargain without recognizing the Ravens’ overwhelming role in brokering it. The same Twitter feed that, on Monday, announced that Rice had been cut had this to report back then: “Janay Rice says she deeply regrets the role that she played the night of the incident.” It took the new video for the team to delete that tweet, months later.

Did the Ravens have such different information back then? It was no secret that the new video existed. (Or, again, that Palmer had been assaulted.) Indeed, as Deadspin notes, various sports reporters were told that N.F.L. and Ravens officials had seen it; they relayed heavy hints that it would show all those mysterious complexities, and help to explain why Rice’s suspension was so light—though the choreography of Rice’s supposed limited responsibility is, again, hard to picture, absent an invisible Rube Goldberg machine in the elevator.

Now, with the video out, and with it no evidence of some attack that put Rice in a corner, those same football executives are coming forward in poses of wounded dismay: surely they weren’t the ones who spread the rumors about what it showed. “That video was not made available to us and no one in our office has seen it until today,” an N.F.L. spokesman said. Roger Goodell, the commissioner, who recently released a new, stricter domestic-violence policy (accompanied by a message to owners that he “didn’t get it right” about Ray Rice), said that, because of the video, he was now suspending Rice indefinitely—suggesting that the scene was news to him. That backing away has been accompanied by a sense of betrayal in sports-writing circles: “I was told NFL had access to same evidence the police did when evaluating a 2-game suspension,” Jane McManus, of ESPN, tweeted. (The police response to the video raises its own questions: Rice was charged with third-degree assault but pleaded not guilty and avoided trial by entering a counselling program.) “If the N.F.L. had seen that video and suspended Ray Rice two games, it’s an embarrassment of the highest proportion,” Adam Schefter said on “SportsCenter.” “Someone Is Lying About Whether the NFL Saw the Ray Rice Tape” was the headline on Deadspin.

Or a lot of people are lying to themselves. An appalling thought is that plenty of supposedly responsible people did see that video tape, and saw in it only what they wanted to see—the willful rationalizations that sustain domestic violence. Here is what the video does show: Palmer and Rice in the hotel hall, arguing; she swats her arm at him and walks ahead into the elevator. He follows, stands close over her, and either says or does something that causes her to recoil. She tries to push him away from her and then walks toward him, saying or yelling something (the video is silent). Her face is open to him. Rice punches her with a hard left hook, spinning Palmer against the elevator wall and handrail as she drops. It is a couple of minutes before she regains even a woozy half-consciousness. Rice, who was by then talking to a security guard, doesn’t offer any gestures of comfort, let alone tenderness; if what he’s just done is surprising or unfamiliar to him, he doesn’t show it. He does, at one point, push her legs together with a shove of his foot. That is what it looks like when a man beats up a woman.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/ray-rice-video-shows?utm_source=tny


BTW this was the first video that was released some 6 months ago. From cameras outside of the elevator:

http://youtu.be/OETH5brfTi4
 

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....and yet, no one said fuck all when Beyonces little sister went apeshit on Jay-Z in an elevator. Jay-Z just has 100 problems now I guess.
 
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