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If a person is interested in a police career, in the application process he will have to disclose any incidents where money was exchanged for sexual services ie. massage parlour. Does anyone know if this would immediately disqualify him from that process? I assume so because it is illegal, but want to make sure. As far as I know you need to be approx. 3 years removed from any criminal activity, detected or undetected. Any experience, knowledge or insight would be helpful.
 

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If a person is interested in a police career, in the application process he will have to disclose any incidents where money was exchanged for sexual services ie. massage parlour. Does anyone know if this would immediately disqualify him from that process? I assume so because it is illegal, but want to make sure. As far as I know you need to be approx. 3 years removed from any criminal activity, detected or undetected. Any experience, knowledge or insight would be helpful.
Not yet, it's not............money for sex that is...........but give it time.
 

janje

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There are a lot of questions like that in the screening process and I admit that I have no idea about their specific purpose.
I assume so because it is illegal....
It is however not illegal -- yet. Although there are other illegal related activities like public propositioning. I would expect the question is more about whether a police officer could be leveraged into criminal activity in the future.

Maybe they are just trying to build up the pervert police force to help enforce bill C-36 when it passes.
 
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There is a polygraph test and pyschological interview that is also part of the process, hence my "friends" hesitation. In the application, it states that if you do not disclose something and are found to be lying, then you're done and are no longer eligible to apply.
 

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I would IMMEDIATELY want to write on the form "My rights under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms protect my application for being unduly rejected for anything I have done in the past that might have any bearing on how I might perform in a given occupation in the future" but probably just KMFMS*. Problem is, I have never been very good at that...(huh...) If I am being asked if I have ever been been CONVICTED of any offence including sex for money, then I can X out the N box. If I am being asked if I have ever been CHARGED of any offence up to and including sex for money, then I can X out the N box. If they are asking if I have ever committed any offence up to and including sex for money or jaywalking, they had better be sworn officers of the court and conducting an official interrogation with my lawyer by my side if they want so much as a headshake or a nod.


*keep my effing mouth shut.
 

Violet

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If a person is interested in a police career, in the application process he will have to disclose any incidents where money was exchanged for sexual services ie. massage parlour. Does anyone know if this would immediately disqualify him from that process? I assume so because it is illegal, but want to make sure. As far as I know you need to be approx. 3 years removed from any criminal activity, detected or undetected. Any experience, knowledge or insight would be helpful.
Having paid for sex does not disqualify someone. Some of the reasons they ask this question is to see if you answer honestly, to assess your life experience (they actually don't want you to have lived a perfect sheltered life), and to see if you are at risk for blackmail. It is in the person's best interest to be honest and they do administer a polygraph. If a person answers yes to this question they will likely ask them about the specifics. I imagine those questions might include things like: what kind of sexual activity, how long ago was it, how frequent, was it public (streetwalker) or private/indoor, were you married/in a relationship at the time, do you plan on doing it again, etc. These factors along with the rest of the application questions and your general character, honesty and trustworthiness will all be taken into account when determining eligibility.

Paying for sex in and of itself is not currently illegal. Some activities surrounding prostitution are. So I'm not sure whether or not the "3 years free and clear from illegal activity" prerequisite would apply here, it may be dependent on a number of things in this situation. I believe even with something like drug use it is "particularly" within the past 3 years and definitely not ok after submitting the application.

(Sources: people who have gone through the application process and documentation about the application processes from the RCMP and City Police.)
 

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Give them a huge slap upside the head and get them back to reality! Seriously, why would anyone want to do that? Surely, your "friend" is qualified to do something else....

It's obvious. They want to commit crimes and get away with it....and they are not badass enough to impress the HA.
 

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from what I know, I have a few friends and co workers that have become police or have tried to be police

everyone has said to be completely honest, tell them everything that you can remember, any drug use, driving drunk
I do think the "have you paid for sexual services" does comeup

I have a friend that has done every drug on earth , been around the world and put his imagination everywhere he could put it
and he became a cop
I have a co worker that has never done any form of "illegal" drugs, will call a taxi after one drink but has been turned away 2 times

I have no idea what the criteria is, but thats just an example
 

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CBSA has the same protocols on hiring. Be honest about everything. They don't care what you've done in the past (to a point obviously) they want to know that you are honest. You lie to them now, will you lie and hide something or cover something up later? Probably 8/10 people have tried pot before, and if they interview 100 people only 3 people say they have tried, those 3 people will look more honest than the other 97.


from what I know, I have a few friends and co workers that have become police or have tried to be police

everyone has said to be completely honest, tell them everything that you can remember, any drug use, driving drunk
I do think the "have you paid for sexual services" does comeup

I have a friend that has done every drug on earth , been around the world and put his imagination everywhere he could put it
and he became a cop
I have a co worker that has never done any form of "illegal" drugs, will call a taxi after one drink but has been turned away 2 times

I have no idea what the criteria is, but thats just an example
 

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There is a polygraph test and pyschological interview that is also part of the process, hence my "friends" hesitation. In the application, it states that if you do not disclose something and are found to be lying, then you're done and are no longer eligible to apply.
Polygraph / interviews are a joke. Good friend of mine became a cop after having a very dubious bunch of years...very dubious. He just lied his way through. They don't care.
 

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If you were a recruiter/interviewer, would you hire someone who's never been exposed to any vice or crime or would you choose a person who has "done some shit"? I would prefer a person who's been exposed to drugs, hookers, crime etc. because at least that person has some understanding of criminality and probably some street smarts....which could probably save his life in the field. If the person lies to cover up his/her past, then he/she will lie about their conduct as a police officer. Fessing up to your past means you're at least accountable.
 

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A friend who I went to school with and is now a high ranking RCMP officer was one of the worst stoner I knew in school. When he applied to the force he was honest with his past and he felt that was what they were looking for during his interview. So honesty is the best policy when it comes to something like this.
 

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Some of the reasons they ask this question is to see if you answer honestly, to assess your life experience (they actually don't want you to have lived a perfect sheltered life), and to see if you are at risk for blackmail.
Yes.

Tell the truth because if you lie on the polygraph and they catch you (and they will), your law enforcement career is over before it begins.
Yes.
 

kes458

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If a person is interested in a police career, in the application process he will have to disclose any incidents where money was exchanged for sexual services ie. massage parlour. Does anyone know if this would immediately disqualify him from that process? I assume so because it is illegal, but want to make sure. As far as I know you need to be approx. 3 years removed from any criminal activity, detected or undetected. Any experience, knowledge or insight would be helpful.
Beyond the simple application form, you will have to undergo a polygraph exam which will reveal all. Basically honesty and reliability along with some real world life experience count. There's a lot of useless cops out there with lots of education but no life experience or common sense, both of which go a long way in policing.
 

hornygandalf

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The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
This isn't about making sure you are a "goody two-shoes" who has never had a life, but your sense of honesty and integrity.
Paying for sexual services isn't currently illegal, so context is also important. Is it a frequent part of your lifestyle or occasional? What are the circumstances around that?
I think other posters have said similar things, and from what I have heard from someone who went through the process to join the VPD, part of what they are judging is your willingness to reveal everything... and honesty.
 

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Isn't it leeway that gets you in a job or not. Some recruiters want to give a totally honest person a go. Some want the perfect angel who aced the interviews. Personally I've think HR people are the biggest idiots in the world.
 

hornygandalf

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I've met very few HR people who I would trust to any hiring decisions. And I've been behind the desk hiring people as well as involved elsewhere in the recruitment process, so have had extensive contact with HR.
You need to avoid them as much as possible. Their job is to screen people out in the hiring process rather than find someone good for the job.
I've hired some EXCELLENT people by disregarding my HR people and hiring people outside the list of criteria.
 
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