Sickening Attack at West Edmonton Mall

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Today's news paper and this evenings national news covered this story:

Edmonton Journal Story
Trio of teens film assaults


By Jennifer Fong, edmontonjournal.comOctober 10, 2009



EDMONTON - Police have charged three 15-year-olds in connection with two separate assaults at West Edmonton Mall early Saturday morning.

Both random attacks were filmed by the assailants with a cellphone, police said.

“It’s very disturbing, very graphic, and it’s a very violent attack that took place within 16 seconds,” west division Const. Colin Leathem said of the video taken of the first incident, which happened around 12:15 a.m. Saturday.

The teens — two girls and one boy — pulled a 21-year-old woman away from her friend near Entrance 57 on the second floor of the mall, Leathem said. While one of the girls beat the woman, the other two teens filmed the assault and egged their friend on, he said.

The attack was broken up by a male witness. The victim received minor injuries to her upper body and head.

While police were investigating the first incident, they were called to another part of the mall, near the ice rink, for a robbery at around 1:30 a.m.

The same three teens had this time assaulted a 19-year-old woman and stole her purse, Leathem said.

“She was repeatedly punched and kicked, and again it was an unprovoked attack,” he said. “It was pretty violent.”

Officers caught the trio as they tried to run away.

The second attack was also caught on the cellphone camera.

“It’s bizarre. It was just a really strange thing,” Leathem said. “It was a first for me as an investigator to come across someone actually filming a very vicious assault and a robbery within an hour of each other.

“We actually recovered the phone and the filming of the incident is really going against them,” he added. “It’s like the final nail in the coffin.”

Neither victim required medical treatment.

The three teenagers, who cannot be named under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, have been charged with assault and robbery.

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So they charge the three who can't be named under the Yourh Criminal JUSTICE??? Act.

I'm thinking a new attraction at the mall would be a better idea. Put the dirty scum in a cage and charge $100 per rock. I'm pretty sure a public stoning would put an end to this kind of insanity. We know damn well the Youth Criminal Justice Act won't.

Yes Yes perhaps a little extreme but WTF??? :mad::mad::mad:
 

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Today's news paper and this evenings national news covered this story:

Edmonton Journal Story


So they charge the three who can't be named under the Yourh Criminal JUSTICE??? Act.

I'm thinking a new attraction at the mall would be a better idea. Put the dirty scum in a cage and charge $100 per rock. I'm pretty sure a public stoning would put an end to this kind of insanity. We know damn well the Youth Criminal Justice Act won't.

Yes Yes perhaps a little extreme but WTF??? :mad::mad::mad:

And they did it because

1) They thought it would be fun

2) Even if caught not a thing will be done to them they will not go to jail for even a single day at worse some picking up garbage for the city and when they turn 18 it will be like it never ever happened.
 

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And they did it because

1) They thought it would be fun

2) Even if caught not a thing will be done to them they will not go to jail for even a single day at worse some picking up garbage for the city and when they turn 18 it will be like it never ever happened.
today's kids are becoming smarter, and some of them would know how and dare to take advantage of the loopholes in our laws. this is sickening to see and sad to hear. these kids need to learn to value the peace that is taken for granted in our society and perhaps use their smarts on better things.

also in question should be the parents and teachers of these children, because the action of these children is a direct reflection of the way how they are educated and brought up in their families. I don't think corporal punishment is a good idea but they should definitely be punished somehow. May I suggest boot camp.
 

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Kids themselves aren't changing. It's society and SOME adults that are changing and influencing kids. Kids are not born any differently than they were 50 years ago.

Society changes, and it influences people. Then people instill fucked up things into children and teens.

But the people who manage to stay true to the way they're raised end up raising their kids the same way. If kids themselves had changed, this wouldn't be possible and all kids would be the same.

Upbringings are different with every single generation, it doesn't mean that kids themselves are changing but rather adults are changing and then trying to change their kids. It doesn't always work. Ever notice that many poor kids end up being great with money as adults? And just as many rich kids end up poor as adults?
No i dont notice how poor kids end up being great with money as adults and what you are saying is what I said, you are just saying that kids are not changing but what they experience changed, maybe your logic is just different from mine.
 

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All I know is that 3 - 15 year olds attacked a 19 and 21 year old females after midnight. And two of the attackers were female! Pulling the first victim from her friend. Scary. Mind you, this is not the first instance of teen female violence against females ...
 

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All I know is that 3 - 15 year olds attacked a 19 and 21 year old females after midnight. And two of the attackers were female! Pulling the first victim from her friend. Scary. Mind you, this is not the first instance of teen female violence against females ...
It is a damn shame someone didn't come upon the attack as it was happening. Let me tell you that if you grab one of them and slug them yes they are females but break a jaw on one of them the other two would have run like the roaches they are.
 

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Kids themselves aren't changing. It's society and SOME adults that are changing and influencing kids. Kids are not born any differently than they were 50 years ago.

Society changes, and it influences people. Then people instill fucked up things into children and teens.

But the people who manage to stay true to the way they're raised end up raising their kids the same way. If kids themselves had changed, this wouldn't be possible and all kids would be the same.

Upbringings are different with every single generation, it doesn't mean that kids themselves are changing but rather adults are changing and then trying to change their kids from their natural biological programming/morals. It doesn't always work. Ever notice that many poor kids end up being great with money as adults? And just as many rich kids end up poor as adults?
I didn't agree with your first posting but when you elaborated I will back you up. Society tells parents that they should be their kids friends, back in the day you loved but feared your parents. That fear would keep your toeing the line. Today 'hey buddy don't worry about it, it's not your fault' is what these parents will say. In addition parents are too busy working for all the toys (SUV, etc etc) that they are ignoring their kids instead of keeping track of where the kids are. Just WTF are 3 15 year old girls doing out at MIDNIGHT??

If you have ever been to the mall for a late movie there are definitely a LOT of undesirables hanging out there. It looks like a breeding ground for trouble. I would like to know what kind of homelife do the attackers have? It will never be answered but I do wonder....
 

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If this should go to trial and I should be selected for jury duty . . . .
Unfortunately it will be some soft hearted judge who will likely give them 30 minutes detention and an essay assignment on how hard done by they are.

Hmmmmm

So I wonder how that judge would feel it it was his 19 year old daughter who was attacked?
 

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these happy slap videos have been around for a while. do a youtube search for victoria lindsay. they just want attention.
 

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How the fuck do you lose a fight to a 15 year old when your 21? Female on female is irrelevant. And what the fuck was the friend of the victim doing?
 

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hey now. i dont think age necesarily has everything to do with it. some people can be street tough, and the victim could very likely never ever been in a fight, so she wouldnt possibly know how to defend herself. i myself am a very built 260lbs guy and while most people woudlnt dare challenge me, i have a buddy of mine who is about 4 1/2 yrs younger and 70lbs lighter and i cannot for the light of day take him down. but i do agree though, where was the friend in all of this??
 

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Pat Quinn got fined for reminiscing. The reality is that society no longer raises our children. When I was a kid if a neighbour complained about my behavior my parents dealt with it, and I was afraid of what the neigbours MAY say. Proof wasn't required. When I got the strap at school, and I did, I got it again when I got home because my parents told the school that if there was a problem at school they would deal with it at home. I remember riding the bus with my father who taught me by example that you offer your seat to a lady or simply for the reason that someone is older or more feeble than you.

On the other hand, I remember my daughter coming home with a very low report card mark in an easy subject. She admitted she had been caught cheating. The school referred to it as "similar answers with another student" as they would not want to hurt her feelings by calling it was it was. And I wasn't told. I called the teacher and she said it had been dealt with. When I claimed parental rights as part of the triangle she referred me to the vice principal who refused to return my calls. My child remained grounded until I finally got through to the principal who realized I was on their side.

After a stern meeting between my daughter, the principal, the vice principal, the teacher and myself, my daughter took a zero and did a make up assignment that was graded but not included in her mark. The next semester that same vice principal called me and said my daughter had been causing problems in "English". The vice principal told the teacher that she would have parental support. Rather than be suspended, my daughter received an in school suspension and had to continue her course with the teacher bringing her assignments and homework in "the office". She was not allowed back in class with her peers until she apologized. It didn't take long until she apologized, but it took effort by the school, and they wouldn't have done it without parental support. She now has a degree which includes a minor in "English". Apparently having consequences for her actions did not harm her long term development.

My long winded point is that parents now cover for their children and blame society for their children's problems. It starts at home with the parents teaching their children that there are consequences for their actions.
 

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I have been in situations where I have been outnumbered. And I am not a huge fighter, but I walked away relatively unscathed. Anytime you are outnumbered, the rules go out the window - in other words, I am going straight for either your eyes, your nose, and especially your nuts. You'd be surprised how quickly someone loses their steam after getting their nose broken by my elbow, and their nuts being sucker punched. :D
 

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Man, Edmonton is turning into a shit hole. Don't get me wrong, I live, and love it here. But, wow, there is always crap happening on white ave., southside, everywhere. For example.


My buddys girlfiend is driving in the summer with her best friend, a day of shopping. They stop at a red light by west edmonton mall. This guy runs up, smashes the drivers window, punches her in the face, leans over and breaks her girlfriends nose. Then just runs away??????? Why do this, some people out there are really out of it.....
 

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Omg.

My buddys girlfiend is driving in the summer with her best friend, a day of shopping. They stop at a red light by west edmonton mall. This guy runs up, smashes the drivers window, punches her in the face, leans over and breaks her girlfriends nose. Then just runs away??????? Why do this, some people out there are really out of it.....
That screams drug-induced rage or psychosis. A little Valium and 4 padded walls would go a long way!
 

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Society isn't telling parents they have to be friends with their children.

Idiotic parents are deciding they want to be friends and not parents. That's a decision people are making all on their own. I see nowhere society is telling parents they should not do the job of parenting.

Where society is influencing parent/child interaction is the ridiculous notion that every child is special and can become anything he/she wants. The fear of raising your child with some level of insecurity has led to imbuing every kid with overconfidence which has morphed into arrogance and entitlement.
 

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Good job Amanut!
If only every single parents put just at least half the effort you did, we wouldn't have this messed up society.

There's two basic things children need..... guidance and discipline, but parents nowadays seems to forget the latter one. I'm not saying that if your child spills milk that you break a beer bottle on their head, but just make sure that children understand that there will always be consequences for their actions.

I spend a lot of time around kids and sometimes I see one child specifically hit another child or blames them for something they didn't do, and when I do tell their parents, they're just like, "Oh well, I didn't see it". That just irritates me so much. I mean... if I can't just let my dog run around out of control, why should we be letting children to do the same?
 
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