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longknight

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Well hell. I gone did dumb tonight. I was talking on one of the chatlines here in Edmonton, talked to a girl, gave her my number, she gave me her location. It was the Edmonton Inn Express downtown, and off I went to meet her.

She came down to get me and we went up. She was about 5'6 110 ish blond hair, went by the name Dana, tanned, alright looking, skinny, may have had some enhancements in the chest area.

We went up she asked if I brought her money, I said sure, handed it over.
Then she said that she wasn't a prostitute, and to get the hell out because she had 4 guys waiting on the balcony.

I stopped for a moment and was thinking to myself that there is a good chance that there is no one, or at most, one person out there, and I was likely quick enough to throw the locking latch on the sliding door before she knew what happened, and then take my money back.

So for those 3 seconds as I thought there calculating, I realized that yes, I could have done that, but if I TAKE my money back then it's probably an assault charge for me, and then it's a whole new ball game.

So I just turned and left.

As I was leaving she said just chalk it up to a learning experience, at which point I stopped turned, recalculated and realized that even if I was just robbed, and if she was being a bitch (about robbing me. The hell!), that there was no way I could not get charged for taking my money back and left.

As I walked downstairs, bewildered, I thought, yes, 2 illegalities had been committed here tonight, and which was worse. I can live without the money. But what about the next guy, or worse, what if someone takes that moment to calculate the situation and comes up with a different answer then I did. Things could get all sorts of wrong. So I called the hotel and told them what happened. And being pissed off I said that the police would be coming. He said there was nothing he could do, but he had my number.

So now the hotel and the scammer both have my cell number. Sigh. If things came to a head and they wanted to review times called and my coming and going on the cameras, I realized that I would easily be caught, so doing what I always do, I dug myself a deeper pit.

I drove downtown to the police station an talked to one of the police there on the little intercom phone thingy. Of course I said it was a friend and that they used my phone, and laid it out, but of course the officer on the other end sounded apathetic at most, and of course nothing would be done.

So yeah, it sounds like a way for women to print money. Hell, you could turn one of those out every 10 mins if you tried hard enough. And because I too was in the wrong, there is jack I can do about it.

There was no signs out of the ordinary compared to the many times I have done similar things, so I can't even tell you want it is to look out for.

Watch out, be smart, and remember, there is no one watching our backs.

No smarmy remarks please, I am plenty angry, upset, and more then a little worried already.
 

rescue911

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i feel for you

man that is so wrong on so many levels. the only thing you could have done was call her bluff.....take out your phone, call the police and tell them you were in a room with a lady you just met at the bar, that you returned from the washroom to find she had rifled your wallet. give them the room number and tell them you would be waiting in the hall. if nothing else you might have caused her a moment of discomfort....at best she may have given you your money back and ushered you out quickly.
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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Shit that's a bum deal, hope you did not lose more than 60 or 80 bucks.
Rescue has the best idea but the best thing to do is just cut your loss and post here, maybe if possible get a picture of the girl with your cam phone.
When it comes to the chat lines your going to be hard pressed to find a gem but they are out there.
Best thing is to limit your $ risk so even if you get ripped off it's no big deal.
Just remmeber that chat lines you should not pay more than 60 maybe 80.

Plus it is a learning experience and you will learn to read vibes from girls and can avoid bad situations.
Also you did not get hurt, better a girl take off with your cash than get violent. There's more guys being ripped off than girls since guys will never report it, it's easy for the scammers to do it.

The girls who are robbing guys are usually just getting enough to pay for her and her pimps crack for the night, not like she's paying off a new Benz.
 

threepeat

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Sorry to hear about what happened, longknight. I said this on the other thread, but just goes to show that trust works both ways and pooners can get ripped off too. The guys aren't all saints and the girls aren't all angels.

From a legal standpoint, I'm confused as to what you're worried about. Yeah it's embarrassing and yeah it sucks to lose the money, but you haven't committed any crime as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure why you went to the police. You talked to a girl on the phone and gave her some money.

If you actually talked about exchanging money for services and did that in a public place, that is the illegal part. Even then, it would become and he said/she said in court and likely wouldn't hold up unless there are other witnesses. And what are the chances she's going to appear in court and say you solicited her, when she told you she's not a prostitute?

My advice is try and forget this ever happened and stick to legit SPs in the future.
 

namssa

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What threepeat says is absoultely true. As long as you did not discuss activities or money in public, you have commited no crimes. Like he said, even if you did, it would come down to a he said, she said situation. I am thinking that LE would be more interested in takeing a crook down than a pooner.

There are a number of girls running that general type of scam in almost every city. CL and chatlines are their most likely form of advertising. In my opinion, these chat lines have to be a few levels down the ladder from using CL, and CL does not have the best reputation either. It is not unexpected that this type of thing happened.

Best to use one of the many, many well reviewed girls that are on this forum or that have been reviewed on this forum in my opinion.
 

gumbyman6900

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I feel for you.... I have been taken a few times cause the LG was doing the thinking. Thankfully, never for the full amount. Quite frankly, I have learned to ignore CL unless it is someone I have seen a review/paid ad on Perb or CAF for, or it is someone that I already have dealt with. As for other forums like chat lines etc... I stay away. If not for any reason than I have no clue who/what I am talking to.
 

longknight

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Yeah, crappy situ, but in the end, it's only money, so I guess no harm done to anything except my pride. So my warning is here for the rest of you to learn from I suppose. Always smart to stay with the well reviewed girls, but when it's 3 or 4 in the morning, that becomes impossible. Not that that is an excuse, even then it's smarter to just wait.
As for being worried, I can honestly say I know very little about the law. I know I did something shady and so did she, and that's about as far as my knowledge on the subject goes. I really should make it a point of knowing my rights.
Though if this even happens again, I like Rescue911's Idea. Seems like something that could be pulled off.
 

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Sorry to hear that Buddy

I think it is important to go to the police right away. They count on the fact you won't. It happned to me once, I did go and they picked her up (she stole indentifiable stuff). HAHA, you should have seen the look I got as I was still there when they dragged her in (at 3:00 in the morning btw).

It is for exactly trhat reason I refuse to call a lady on CL withut blocking my number. For the very odd occasion I do call a CL lady, if she sounds OK and I agree to see her, I will callback without blocking my number and book. Ther is no risk to her if I just call for info. She does not have to get explicit if she fears I am LE but can give me some info.

Studios are far safer experiences. Incalls offer the risk of what happened to you and outcalls offer the rish of grab and dash type scenarios ad as well, they find out where you live.
 

Extreme April

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I think it is important to go to the police right away. They count on the fact you won't. It happned to me once, I did go and they picked her up (she stole indentifiable stuff). HAHA, you should have seen the look I got as I was still there when they dragged her in (at 3:00 in the morning btw).

It is for exactly trhat reason I refuse to call a lady on CL withut blocking my number. For the very odd occasion I do call a CL lady, if she sounds OK and I agree to see her, I will callback without blocking my number and book. Ther is no risk to her if I just call for info. She does not have to get explicit if she fears I am LE but can give me some info.

Studios are far safer experiences. Incalls offer the risk of what happened to you and outcalls offer the rish of grab and dash type scenarios ad as well, they find out where you live.
I can only speak for myself. It pisses me off when I hear stuff like this.
Damn, we all work hard for our money....ok maybe not me (its fun not work)
Anyways, I do both in and out call and I can say this much.....I wont answer calls that are blocked.....in the past they were nothing but a waste of time and the guys that blocked their calls, were ones that wanted to jerk off to my answers.
So you cant always expect girls to pick up when they see the caller has blocked his number.
love and laughs
April
 

BS Detector

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So you cant always expect girls to pick up when they see the caller has blocked his number.April
I don't expect it April but if they don't, they lose the business. There are a couple of ladies that have answered and I followed up by seeing them (after calling back as I said, without blocking my number). But, those that will not pick up, I will not call with an un-blocked number. We (guys) also have to protect ourselves. Who's to say that she won't keep calling back if you talk to her and decide not to see her? I have also had a lady tell me that some dangerous wing nut here actually offered to pay a lady for personal info on another PERB member. He has had numerous handles and all eventually banned, So yes, ladies need to watch out for crazy guys but we also need to watch out for cray ladies (and guys).

I still do not see her risk in talking to a guy who blocks his number. How does showing his number stop him from jerking off? If he is not making sense or being rude, hang up on him. If he comes that quickly, well, chalk it up to 30 seconds of your day to make someone else's day. If he loved your voice that much, he'll more than likely want to see you. Like your signature says, (not sure now if you really believe it or just like the concept), Trust your instincts. If you get a bad feeling, trust that, but I do not understand why most ladies don't even pick up and give it a chance.

You and I have had a session once and we got along great but it was at the studio.
 

bud68

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I think yo u were smart to think for those 3 seconds and then just walk out. Easy money for her....... so without a doubt she will be trying it again and again....... until she does it to the wrong guy.She is just playing with fire.
 

Mick Shagher

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Anyways, I do both in and out call and I can say this much.....I wont answer calls that are blocked.....in the past they were nothing but a waste of time and the guys that blocked their calls, were ones that wanted to jerk off to my answers.
So you cant always expect girls to pick up when they see the caller has blocked his number.
love and laughs
April
I can't blame you there April. A girl can't be too safe these days. Way too many wing nuts out there. Especially beware of the ones who try to become your confidant only to later turn into stalkers.

Your safety and that of the other girls is priority one. If not answering blocked phone calls helps you feel safer, don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.
 

BS Detector

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I hear ya April. You also have to watch out for the ones who break-in to your place (no doubt to pay for their pain kller addiction and other assorted flavours of drugs) and then offer to "help" you move to your new place. Then there are the ones who scour the papers looking for real names and post those, not once but twice to fulfill this need to be seen as 'all-knowing'. They are sick and obviously have no respect in real life so they seek it on internet chat rooms etc. So, yes, I understand your need to watch for them. All I meant was that us normal guys also need to watch out for the REAL wingnuts out there.

They exist not only on the phone but they also go hang out at the studios, ask all sorts of questions, hardly ever stay but keep a database of information so they can be the first to post answers to questions here and again appear to be the all-mighty leader. It is scary how they try to gain your confidence, gather personal info in bits and pieces, run out to their car, quickly jot down their notes before they forget and then use it against you later. HAHA, he probably gets an hard-on when he sees a question that he can answer and look like a hero to the other guys lol. Watch out for them for sure!

But getting back to longknight, I understand blocking the call may not have helped either but if she did give him some time and info, it might have been a good indicator that she was legit but if she brushed him off, that might have been a red flag for him to stay away, and without him having the risk of her getting personal info to use against him later.
 

longknight

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I think it is important to go to the police right away. They count on the fact you won't. It happned to me once, I did go and they picked her up (she stole indentifiable stuff). HAHA, you should have seen the look I got as I was still there when they dragged her in (at 3:00 in the morning btw)..
I am curious how you didn't get yourself arrested doing that. Way to go though!
 

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I am curious how you didn't get yourself arrested doing that. Way to go though!

Nothing was discussed in public for one thing but it was not cash I complained about being stolen. She stole other stuff from me. I had a "date" with a "lady" I met from Lavalife (this was years ago). I didn't care about what happened to me. I wanted to make sure she got her's.

She was not counting on the fact that I'd go to the cops but I do not take crap from anyone, so headed straight over there. After I filled out the paperwork, they went and woke her up and brought her in. Brought my stuff too but I had to wait to get it.

I told her I preferred to avoid trouble and if she handed it over, I'd leave, no questions asked. She insisted I just have lost it or not had it to begin with. I told her I KNOW what I had with me. She kept insisting and I even warned her I would go to the cops. She called my bluff and lost. Like I said, I do not take crap and she picked the wrong guy to fuck with. Sometime it takes awhile but, they ALWAYS fall.
 

Bobo The Rabbit

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As it has been said many times, buy a pay as you go phone so you can toss it at any time, even if your married and your wife found it you could simply tell her you found it at work/sidewalk and were waiting for the owner to call it so you could return it.
This way you never need to block your number.
 

namssa

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As it has been said many times, buy a pay as you go phone so you can toss it at any time, even if your married and your wife found it you could simply tell her you found it at work/sidewalk and were waiting for the owner to call it so you could return it.
This way you never need to block your number.
Exactly!!!
 

FloridaGuy

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Please provide a link. I am sure there are lots of capable perbites who would love to meet her. And her friends.
 
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